Copernicus was German, not Polish

Published by carolyn on Sat, 2017-07-08 12:30

Nicolaus Copernicus, a Prussian, placed the sun instead of the earth in the center of the solar system in 1542, making a monumental contribution to world scientific knowledge. Is this a Polish face? No, it is a Germanic face.


By Carolyn Yeager

US PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WAS IN POLAND ON THURSDAY, JULY 6 and got his history wrong again. He did it in Jerusalem in May and now he's done it again ... in order to cater to post-WWII historical distortions. In Warsaw, speaking to thousands, he said:

Despite every effort to transform you, oppress you, or destroy you, you endured and overcame. You are the proud nation of Copernicus — think of that — Chopin, Saint John Paul II. Poland is a land of great heroes. And you are a people who know the true value of what you defend.

Poland has been claiming Copernicus as a Polish son for a long time because, well, he did live in the territory called the Kingdom of Poland during most of his life. He was born in German Silesia, as was his father and mother before him. He grew up speaking German – it was his native language. He did all of his work and correspondence in Latin and German, none in Polish. However, it is said he could also speak Polish, Italian and Greek.

Right: German-language letter from Copernicus to Duke Albert of Prussia, giving medical advice for George von Kunheim (1541)

The Wikipedia entry for him is much changed from what it was ten years ago. At that time his German origin was more clearly stated. But now the efforts of Poles and Jews have succeeded in wiping away as much of that as possible by using Polish historian sources and place names. But it can't be done completely since too much evidence exists. Such as, along with his mother's family being German (Waltzenrode), while studying canon law at Bologna in 1496, he joined a student organization which was open to students of all kingdoms and states whose mother-tongue was German.

Another reason to believe Copernicus was German is that Trump mentioned only one other Polish “genius:” Frederic Chopin, the great pianist/composer. (Yes, Chopin was Polish, but it's noteworthy that he left the city of Warsaw when still a young man to settle in the more stimulating city of Paris, where he remained until his death – never returning to Poland.) No other individual of such elevated brilliance as Copernicus was ever produced by the Polish people, so neither could Copernicus have been produced by them. Contrarily, a number of the world's greatest geniuses have been produced by the Germans.

It is too bad that the political narrative pushed by the New World Order – of which the European Union plays its role – forces so many historical lies to be told. The history of WWI and WWII, and the part played by the USA and World Jewry is distorted beyond recognition; the truth has even become criminalized.

For example, the truth of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was not told in President Trump's speech. The uprising was a futile gesture since the Soviets were already on their way to “liberating” Warsaw. But the Poles wanted to liberate themselves first so they would not be obligated to the Russians for the favor. By carrying out the 'uprising', the city was destroyed and 15,000 Poles and 16,000 Germans lost their lives for no good reason – 50,000 casualties altogether. The Poles gained nothing and were not Freedom Fighters. Nor did the Wehrmacht reduce the city to rubble out of a hatred for Poles but because Polish snipers were hiding out in every building.

The Warsaw Uprising occurred because “the Russians were coming” and the Poles feared their rule. The “Nazis” were actually only holding on to their already won territory.

President Trump said some good things in his speech but as a historian, he fails. “This is a nation more than one thousand years old,” he said. No, it isn't. That's a Polish invention too. I told the story of the real history of Poland on The Heretics' Hour in October 2014. Give it a listen. Or read Poland and the Falsifications of Polish History by Else Löser for yourself.

Comments

I think that Copernicus may have been half-Polish, through his father. His mother Barbara Watzenrode was German and he was raised largely by his mother's brother.
 
Chopin was half-French, through his father. Chopin is not a Polish name.
 
The Poles have so few great men to show. I wonder why Trump did not mention Felix Dzerzhinsky as a famous Pole.

A section headed “Nationality” toward the bottom of the Copernicus Wikipedia page, gives this helpful information:

There has been discussion of Copernicus's nationality and of whether, in fact, it is meaningful to ascribe to him a nationality in the modern sense. But there are some facts that should be considered when talking about Copernicus's nationality.

Nicolaus Copernicus was born and raised in Royal Prussia, a semiautonomous and polyglot region under rule by the Kingdom of Poland.[135][136] Copernicus was the child of German-speaking parents and grew up with German as his mother tongue.[137][138][139] His alma mater was the University of Kraków in Poland. When he later studied in Italy, at the University of Bologna Copernicus joined the "German Nation", the student organization for German-speakers of all allegiances (Germany would not become a nation-state until 1871).[140][141] Copernicus' father lent money to King Casimir IV Jagiellon of Poland to finance the war against the Teutonic Knights,[142] but the inhabitants of Royal Prussia also resisted the Polish crown's efforts for greater control over the region.[135]

Encyclopædia Britannica,[143] Encyclopedia Americana,[144] The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia,[145] The Oxford World Encyclopedia,[146] and World Book Encyclopedia[147] refer to Copernicus as a "Polish astronomer". Sheila Rabin, writing in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, describes Copernicus as a "child of a German family [who] was a subject of the Polish crown",[11] while Martin Weissenbacher writes that Copernicus's father was a Germanized Pole.[148]

Historian Michael Burleigh describes the nationality debate as a "totally insignificant battle" between German and Polish scholars during the interwar period.[149] Polish astronomer Konrad Rudnicki calls the discussion a "fierce scholarly quarrel in ... times of nationalism" and describes Copernicus as an inhabitant of a German-speaking territory that belonged to Poland, himself being of mixed Polish-German extraction.[150]

Poet Czesław Miłosz describes the debate as an "absurd" projection of a modern understanding of nationality onto Renaissance people, who identified with their home territories rather than with a nation.[151]

Similarly, historian Norman Davies writes that Copernicus, as was common in his era, was "largely indifferent" to nationality, being a local patriot who considered himself "Prussian".[152]

Miłosz and Davies both write that Copernicus had a German-language cultural background, while his working language was Latin in accord with the usage of the time.[151][152] Additionally, according to Davies, "there is ample evidence that he knew the Polish language".[152] Davies concludes: "Taking everything into consideration, there is good reason to regard him both as a German and as a Pole: and yet, in the sense that modern nationalists understand it, he was neither."[152]

From this, he cannot be claimed as "Polish." I haven't yet found any serious scholar willing to declare Copernicus' father definitely a full Pole. I'm still looking.

The Poles do the same with Veit Stoss, the amazing German sculptor in wood. I have written about this too.

How about Lech Walensa? The East Germans didn't lead the anti-Communist charge.
In music, the fabulous soundtrack composer Zbigniew Priesner, the most renown director Krystof Kieslowski.

Thank you for writing this, Jake, because it makes my point perfectly. If these men you named are the greatest sons of Poland you can come up with, men who have made an international reputation for themselves, it shows that the Polish "nation" cannot have produced a genius/scholar/innovator of the likes of Nikolaus Kopernick (Copernicus). Where is a single other one of his ilk? 

We are not just talking about men of accomplishment, or talent or persistence, but of those rare persons who move civilization forward with new, surprising discoveries.

I have a very short write-up on this great hero on my blog: https://k0nsl.org/blog/detox/john-paul-the-pole-his-successor
 
 Best wishes,-k0nsl

One of my favorite books (it's nearly a thousand pages of German awesomeness): "The German Genius" by Peter Watson:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003M69A64/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UT...

No other ethnic group comes even close to what the Germanic people have contributed to modern western civilization.

Maybe you would be kind enough by helpng me add more contributions to this post on my blog? It already is quite a substantial list but if we can add more to it..why not?
 
See: https://k0nsl.org/blog/detox/german-accomplishments/

Pride in being German needs to be inspired among all Germans today. This ridiculous, immoral, vile and totally undeserved "German Guilt complex" that I hear about among Germans in Germany needs to be extinguished and Germans need to wake the hell up. The truth is that Germans and Germany are a wonderful culture, people and nation.  There are many historical lies about Germans and Germany that need to be destroyed.
Links to websites like Carolyn's and yours need to be shared widely, especially among young people.
 

Thank you Carolyn
for givingi the German "genius" some space. I don't fight over a Coperncus - he is of course a German. And Beethoven - I let him enjoy Dutch heritage.
 

Hi Klaus, I just learned the interesting story of Beethoven. I had never noticed that his name was Van, not Von. His grandfather, a musician also named Ludwig, came from Flanders to Bonn, Germany as a young man. He had one son, Johann, who married Maria Magdalena Keverich, a German. Their second son was Ludwig van Beethoven, so he was German through his mother and Germanic Dutch through his father. Not bad.

Why is the mother forgotten in these instances when only the father's background is mentioned? It takes two. Laughing

Hi Carolyn,thanks for all of your great info.I found a typo on CACopernicus,But the Poles wanted to liberate themselves first so they would not be obligated to the Russians for (the) favor.
 
it should be "their" favor. Have you considered doing your articles as audios. I am a big fan of audio programs. Dana

That is not a typo, but is correct English usage. Maybe that's why you're a big fan of audio programs. :-)

All the best ...

Dear Ms. Caroline,
                         It would have been better if Trump had mentioned Tadeusz Kosciuszko and Casimir Pulaski who helped win American freedom during the American Revolution. Both were Polish. Another name to add is the Hungarian Michael Kovats Fabriczky who served with Pulaski.

He did mention Pulaski and Kosciuszko by name in his speech. You can read it here.

"The signs of this friendship stand in our nation’s capital. Just steps from the White House, we’ve raised statues of men with names like Pułaski and Kościuszko."

Thanks!

You mean the center of the solar system NOT the universe. The center of the universe is EVERYWHERE because the universe is infinite. Please correct your article to say the center of the solar system. Our sun is not the center of our galaxy and there is no reason to consider it the center of the universe anymore than any other sun. It is however definitely the center of our solar system.

Yeah, you're right. I changed it. I wonder why no one else caught that.

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