Satuday Afternoon: How Big of a Hoax was the Sandy Hook "Massacre"

Carl

January 5, 2013 at 7:31 pm

Wow. That was the shortest-lived ‘public trauma’ for me. I hadn’t even thought to consider that it was a hoax. Now, barely three weeks later, it is shattered. The most convincing aspect was to consider that only two or three dozen people would be needed for a good hoax, and, they could easily be enlisted, on the basis of their hopes for what will come of it. People who favor Agenda 21, or just gun control, are everywhere. And indeed, who locally verifies anything? People don’t even know their neighbors any more. That damned TV box tells us everything. Everything everything. And indeed it is larger than life. Great show.

Carolyn

January 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm

Thanks Carl. I hope more people have your experience. I do think this particular hoax has the potential to backfire on the perps. But you know, as Henry Ford said about the Jewish swindlers on last Thursday’s show, for them it is just like a tumble overboard for a sailor … they just come back and start again. They never see themselves as defeated. So we really need to have our eyes opened and learn how they take advantage of our passivity and natural belief in authority (based on the trappings of authority). We really need to get our kids out of these schools.

Andy

January 6, 2013 at 4:01 pm

Remember the words of Lenin, “lies, lies lies often enough repeated will be believed”. Sandy Hook is a definite contrived event, but how can it be known if children really were killed by a programmed hit man, or if the whole event is theatre? The object either way is to disarm the American people. But I believe it is a case that in America some 790,000 people die each year at the hands of doctors. Americans are already being killed off it would seem, what is needed is doctor control before gun control. But who is going to tell this truth?
There is a great mistrust growing of the Jewish communities, but some Jews are standing up and warning about psycho Jews. Have you come across henry makow dot com?

akseeker

January 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm

Carolyn,

A link to Martin’s website would be nice to include in the show description, and future shows’ links, too, if applicable.

Good show, thanks for adding to the questioning of this ultimately questionable event.

Thanks!

hilmar

January 6, 2013 at 7:25 pm

Interesting show.
As to what actually happened at Sandy Hook, I can only speculate.

Whether it was a satanic mass ritual, a hollywood-style media hoax, a classic SSRI patsy psy-op, or something in between, it’s probably too early to come to any definitive conclusion.

Concerning the propaganda exploitation, however, we can specify three main objectives being consistently pursued by the ZOG-media.

1. presenting teachers as heroic surrogate parents
2. justifying gun confiscation
3. demonizing outsiders/loners/thought-criminals

Objective 1 is to habituate the public further to communism while giving emotional alibis/compensation for breaking up the family unit.

Objective 2 is to render the public defenseless for collectivization.

Objective 3 is to stifle dissent through guilt-induced self-censorship.

Good work Carolyn and guests!

Carolyn

January 6, 2013 at 7:45 pm

akseeker – Martin doesn’t have a website, as far as I know. He only mentioned the forum he participated at: cluesforum.info
I spent a long time today looking at their long thread on Sandy Hook. Some interesting stuff; some that is pushing at straws. I only saw one post by Martin (Euphoria) on this thread, in the beginning, showing the hospital in Danbury, Conn that was used. He mentioned that on the show.

The premise of this forum is that (almost) everything is media/photographic fakery … you just have to find it. They’re pretty good at finding whatever is there, so it’s worth following.

Carolyn

January 6, 2013 at 7:50 pm

Have you come across henry makow dot com?

Who hasn’t? But yes, I’ve known of Henry for a long while and written about him. If he warns about “psycho Jews” it’s because he wants people to believe only some Jews are bad — certainly not Jews like himself! He is 100% Jewish, from Poland (meaning Russia), as I understand.

hilmar

January 7, 2013 at 3:03 pm

Check out this three-part Sandy Hook video series for several examples of ZOG-media’s deliberate blurring of the proper definitions of parent-child, teacher-child relationships, respectively.
Starting at 06:33 we get spoonfed the first example of an emotional teacher telling about “loving” “her” “kids”, in reality other people’s children, whom she is paid to indoctrinate.

Very dangerous psychic programming to condition the public into perceiving the government as a meta-family and any official representing the government as a surrogate parent.

Teachers should basically only teach pupils how to read, write and do basic math. “Loving” them and calling them “kids” in the possessive is obscenely inappropriate.

David Baillie

January 8, 2013 at 7:02 am

Such a psyop took place decades ago when War Of The Worlds was unleashed on an unsuspecting public and people all over the country called their authorities in panic. The gullibility of the public via media control has long been understood and used by the enemy.

Andy

January 8, 2013 at 5:56 pm

Apparently not all “Jews” are infact Jews. Would you say Makow is 100% Hebrew or 100% Khazar. The khazars seem to be getting the finger pointed at them more than Hebrews, even though Khazars who were originally Turkish bandits are following talmud beliefs. Lets be honest who ever is ultimately behind the plot to establish Jewish world government there are enough idiot Europeans giving them a helping hand in Eurocide. So why should there not be jewish people willing to warn about the psycho project. If Sandy Hook is a scam then there are Europeans who have aided and abetted this scam. A general hating of Jews for being Jewish, does this realy make sense?

Carolyn

January 8, 2013 at 6:07 pm

Apparently not all “Jews” are infact Jews.

Really. Well, you won’t get very far with that at The White Network. We don’t distinguish between this kind of Jew and that kind of Jew … between Hebrews and Khazars, between Sephardic and Ashkanazi. They’re all Jews to us. If you want to do it I can’t stop you. If you want to think Henry Makow is some kind of hero, I won’t try to argue you out of it. Maybe you are a Jew.

Amanda

January 8, 2013 at 10:51 pm

Great show! I just wanted to let you know that I posted a link to the show on the CT shooting thread over at http://theinfounderground.com/forum/index.php (an anti-zionist forum). Also, if you, Don, or Martin are interested in sharing additional information on Sandy Hook on the forum, your input would be greatly appreciated (and it’s a free forum, open to all). There are lots of posters over there who are researching this and trying to figure out what really happened. Anyway, I think your experience w/the holocaust fraud and Don’s legal experience would be helpful in trying to sort the situation in Sandy Hook.

Brit in Norway

January 9, 2013 at 2:23 am

Martin from the UK is partly correct about media involvement in shootings eg using fake witnesses etc. However regarding the breivik operation here in Norway, Living here I have evidence that real people were shot. Mossad are criminals who have cells in Europe who will shoot anyone if they can get away with it and IMO they did the utøya shootings here. To go on about NATO and club Of Rome and make out mossad Are cameramen is ridiculous. Clues forum does have some good info but it isn’t all media fakery in these ops, they re happy to shoot us as well Martin.

Martin

January 9, 2013 at 9:55 am

Thank you for the opportunity to contribute to this show, Carolyn.

‘Brit in Norway,’ I wanted to respond to your post above. Please check out the interviews with the former journalist for RIA Novosti and KGB informant Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, who contended that the majority of state intelligence operations are in fact aimed at ‘ideological subversion,’ which means use of the mass media to alter people’s belief systems and change cultural mores.

If this is correct, then it would be reasonable to surmise that most (but not all) of Mossad’s operations are based on media trickery, with the remainder being military or tactical in nature. The Kiryat Ono photography college, part of Ono Academic College, in a northern district of Tel Aviv, is one likely base for the AFP press agency’s fraudulent photographic work.

Does the ruling class have any qualms in murdering its political opponents within Europe? Of course not. In 2002 the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was assassinated in Hilversum by Volkert van der Graaf, an environmental and animal rights activist. Now, can we simply assume that Mossad was behind this, or should we first look closer at the Dutch government itself, or possibly NATO or the European Commission? Perhaps it really was a white leftist acting alone?

Finally, you claim to have evidence of real deaths in the Norway 2011 terrorist attack. I would be grateful to see this evidence. Please present it here, or post a link on this page, if you can. I’m willing to stand corrected. But until you provide the material, I remain sceptical that anybody was killed that day.

Brit in Norway

January 10, 2013 at 4:46 am

Martin I haven’t followed Sandy Hook much and don’t know about the Dutch assassination you mention. I know more about Breivik because I live here. I agree that “they” can use fake victims in operations and there have been a lot of fake media stories in the Norwegian press. They are pushing the multicultural agenda and will lie about anything to further their cause. The area where I live, a lot of people (foolishly) support Arbeiderpartiet and I can confirm that young white Norwegians were shot dead. These people don’t go on tv or blab in the press, they use fake stories for that.
So it s a combination of fakery and shooting Europeans in this operation.

I’m glad Carolyn at the end asked you your position on the Jews. Your position is incorrect, world Jewry is responsible for this situation. Sure, there are plenty of traitors but the Jews are the power. You need to stop sitting on the fence Martin and name the Jew. The Mossad have no qualms about shooting youngsters, don’t fall into the trap of sanitising what they are doing by saying they are just cameramen.

Martin

January 10, 2013 at 1:53 pm

‘Brit in Norway,’ thanks for the reply.

I am still waiting for evidence of real deaths in Norway. The say-so of young Norwegian Labour Party activists does not cut it.

1. Do you think Anders Breivik is a real person?
2. What are the names of the victims you claim died?
3. Do you have any contact with the coroner and/or access to official medical records?
4. If the event was partly faked, as you concede, why not simply fake the entire thing? Surely that would be easier?

Sitting on the fence? No. The Rothschild Jewish bankers, self-appointed aristocracy and an army of ‘ordinary’ Jews are leading the way. They see northern Europeans as rivals, enemies, and they want us gone. There’s no doubt about that.

However, if you want to claim that an Israeli national carried out real killings in Oslo, then I need to see hard evidence.

On balance, Oslo 2011 was most likely a propaganda exercise directed by the Jewess Hilary Rodham ‘Rodomski’ Clinton, US Secretary of State, and planned from late 2008/2009 (when the Pentagon officially identified a blonde Al-Qaeda as the latest threat to state security).

Brit in Norway

January 11, 2013 at 3:07 am

Martin: It is fairly easy In Norway to research victims. Norway has a folkeregister. Simply look up the official victim list and then marry it up with the register. Ordinary people here need to mail their new address to the register whenever they move home so that they can access services. I don’t speak to labour party members. My immediate family works in health and we know of six white Norwegian bereaved families in our area. Whether you want to remain skeptical is up to you.
The press here, after he shooting focused heavily on foreign labour party member deaths and survivors. I believe some foreigners may have been shot too, but I believe foreign survivors were spared to give ther stories in the press. Also, they have made stuff up, like a joint Muslim Christian funeral in a lutheran church with a female priest. Norway is underpopulated and Israelis stick out like a sore thumb, and I have seen plenty. I fail to see why you think
Mossad wouldn’t do it, they had motive and means.
And I believe: Breivik is a state asset .

simon shack

January 11, 2013 at 3:25 pm

Dear Brit in Norway,

You wrote, regarding the Breivik affair:

“we know of six white Norwegian bereaved families in our area.”

Since I will be travelling to Oslo later this year, would it be possible to arrange for me to interview these six families? For now, I’d appreciate if you could simply list their names. I have family and friends in Oslo that, possibly, would know / be acquainted with some of them and help me establish contact with them.

Thanks for a kind reply

Simon Shack

Brit in Norway

January 12, 2013 at 9:41 am

I ve said all that I have to say on this topic and I am not interested in canoodling with “the truth movement,” I call nonsense when I hear it. “Mossad are cameramen.” That was a nonsense statement from Martin.

simon shack

January 12, 2013 at 12:31 pm

Thanks for replying, Brit in Norway.

For you to call ‘nonsense’ on any of Martin’s statements (without providing evidence for your own theories about the Breivik psyop) resonates as a rather vacuous dismissal. If you yourself were a no-nonsense individual, you should have no problems in providing the surnames of the alleged six bereaved Oslo families that you supposedly know in your area.

You may or may not be familiar with our extensive research on the Breivik affair (and other similar psyops) at Cluesforum; to make it short, our working thesis is that no one is killed for real in those media-staged and state-managed simulations. With this, of course, it is not implied that those psyops are less than vicious and criminal acts. Our aim is to pinpoint – by virtue of solid, incontrovertible evidence – the methods employed by the clowns in power (whoever they will turn out to be) to deceive and subjugate the masses.

I will consider your inexplicable non-response to my simple request as an umpteenth corroborative element in support of our longstanding research regarding the ‘vicsim’ paradigm (simulated victims) as expounded at Cluesforum. For this, I thank you. Mange takk.

Simon Shack

Andy

January 12, 2013 at 3:01 pm

Just because you do not want to debate any difference between this Jew and that Jew does not make the difference go away. Just because you do not acknowledge any difference between this Jew and that Jew does not make the difference go away. There comes a point where it could look a bit like parranoia. Thats what the Jews who want to rule the world suffer from, perhaps you are a Jew? If you are not going to debate real points of view perhaps you may be better changing your name from the White network, to the Jerk network? And let the real Europeans do the thinking. The difference between Khazars and Hebrews is a topic of debate in other resistance groups in Europe, run by proper Europeans. This is why the Jews are winning, because people like you get aggressive against your own, with friends like you the Europeans dont need enemies.

JohnR

January 12, 2013 at 4:47 pm

Here is a link to James Tracy on Guns and Butter. http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/87874#comment-23280

Brit in Norway

January 12, 2013 at 5:03 pm

Last word from me: Turkey shoot by Jews on misguided youth with a white patsy. It s fairly clear in the brevik case people were shot. Your another one Mr Shack who sticks up for the Jews.

Carolyn

January 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm

John R – Thanks very much. I will add it to today’s program post.

simon shack

January 12, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Dear Brit in Norway,

Your assertion that I am “sticking up for the jews” is a pretty laughable statement – since my half-decade-long research focuses on the media corporations’ complicity with these recurring media psyops. Everyone knows that the media outlets of this planet are predominantly owned and controlled by jewish individuals. However, I prefer to stick to my personal specialties (photo/video and audio analyses)in order to expose the clowns attempting to rule and enslave us all. We shall soon find out if they are all jewish – or perhaps, and more likely, an eclectic, international ragtag gang of power-obsessed jerks.

Carolyn

January 12, 2013 at 9:41 pm

Andy — Here is your friend Henry (the good jew) Makow’s latest totally irresponsible blog: http://www.henrymakow.com/is-this-deceased-emilie-parker.html
Typical disinformation, although admittedly of the more obvious kind. Gosh, I wonder if Brother Nate will pick up on this story too?

You are simply trolling here for the Jews. There is nothing aggressive or paranoid about suggesting that a person who is making a point to defend “good” Jews might be a Jew himself. You re pretty easy to see through.

We are not trying to be Europeans, either. We’ve named our network “White,” not European. Can you grasp the difference?

simon shack

January 12, 2013 at 11:09 pm

Dear Carolyn,

Who did you respond to in your last post?

I would suggest that everyone commenting on this page would specify which poster they are responding to.

Carolyn

January 13, 2013 at 12:19 am

To Simon – Sorry, I usually do. I was responding to Andy, 2013/01/12 at 3:01 pm

I will correct that on my comment to Andy.

Andy

January 14, 2013 at 4:30 pm

So what are you saying then, it is ok for Jews to subvert say Italians or Spanish but just stay away from the White people.

Carolyn

January 14, 2013 at 4:52 pm

To Andy – After you answer where you got that idea from what I’ve written to you, I might add the rest of your attack-comment. Use quotes please. Like this ” “.

Andy

January 16, 2013 at 1:59 pm

Carolyn, you stated on January 12, 2013 at 9.41 pm the following.

“we are not trying to be Europeans, either. We’ve named our network “white”, not European. Can you grasp the difference”

The statement is illogical if you read again the comment you have not chosen to allow to stand. White Americans, White Canadians and White Australians are all Europeans. If you want the “American white network” or “Canadian White network”, then Europeans in Europe will leave you to it. But is it not better if all Europeans and you fight together as white people, and not try and pretend we are from a different origin or what ever. There are only three speceis of man, Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasion. All Caucasions developed in Europe, even though they have spread, hence my definition of “European”. We can use the term Caucasion if you prefer not to being reminded that you are European. The Skin tone of a Caucasions does vary depending on the climate, hence Spanish and Italians though being Caucasions are darker skinned. This does not relate to Mexicans who where Spanish subjects, not Spanish people. You have to remember a reality, your ancesters migrated, you could even be a distant cousin (Help). I will leave it there and perhaps look forward to annoying you on a change of topic. Best wishes

Carolyn

January 16, 2013 at 2:50 pm

To Andy – You are a trickster and a liar. You sent a comment back on Jan. 12 saying in part this:

And let the real Europeans do the thinking. The difference between Khazars and Hebrews is a topic of debate in other resistance groups in Europe, run by proper Europeans. This is why the Jews are winning, because people like you get aggressive against your own, with friends like you the Europeans dont need enemies.

I replied, in context, that we are not The European Network but The White Network and we do it our own way, without any Jews. From that you decide you can get away with saying I denied being of European stock. (I am 100% German and know my ancestry records from 1700. I am certainly European of a very unmixed type.) You take that and reply:

So what are you saying then, it is ok for Jews to subvert say Italians or Spanish but just stay away from the White people.

I didn’t say any such thing, as you know, since you now defend yourself by shifting YOUR idea that Italians and Spanish are not included in White, to me … and then accuse me of being illogical. Wow, this is a pretty sophisticated “argument” technique for unintelligent or unsure people, but not for me. I am experienced in this. You are not a European (as you pretend to instruct me in what a European is) but probably a part-Jew, or some other non-White.

And finally, recognizing that you have no more marbles left in your pathetic bag of tricks, you say “I will leave it there” knowing that you won’t be allowed here anymore to “annoy” me. This is a Whites only space. Your IP is being blocked. But I hope this was instructive to some readers, which is why I let it go on.

Ray

January 19, 2013 at 6:18 pm

Carolyn, thanks for that excellent example you provided with the shill-trickster, Andy. It made my day.

Carolyn

January 19, 2013 at 6:27 pm

Thank you Ray! I got another one today – another person sent it for him. It’s classic “Carolyn doesn’t know who is White, and blocks IP addresses when she’s losing an argument” stuff. I will send it to your email address. I’d almost post it, but then he gets what he wants – his garbage published.

Ray

January 20, 2013 at 3:17 pm

Nice. That guy is definitely one of the tribe. There is no other being that loves to argue that much and somehow thinks they won an argument when they clearly were spanked soundly.