President-elect Trump points to a reporter at his first post-election press conference today, during which he glibly singled out Nazi Germany as a purveyor of fake news.
by Carolyn Yeager
IT HAD TO HAPPEN. Donald Trump has done well to refrain from mentioning the so-called 'holocaust' or Adolf Hitler in any of his public pronouncements. But today he compared the publication of a nasty leaked "intelligence" document about himself that he is calling fake news to how news was handled in Nazi Germany. In doing so, he has kow-towed to political correctness, or revealed a very ignorant streak in his own knowledge of history, or both.
In an early morning tweet in response to the report's publication by Buzzfeed (online) and coverage of the document by CNN, Trump wrote
Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?
Then later, at his press conference, he repeated the misconception: “I think it was disgraceful, disgraceful, that the intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake out. I think it's a disgrace, and that's something that Nazi Germany would have done and did do. I think it's a disgrace that information that's false and fake and never happened got released to the public.”
Our president-elect has got it very wrong. I don't think he could give an example of how Nazi Germany did this. He should realize that fake news is an American tradition, and I think he does realize it but is being politically correct by pointing to Nazi Germany instead. The historical truth about the behavior of Nazi Germany is that the National Socialists actually told the truth about events most of the time, unlike the Roosevelt administration and the Churchill government. We have many examples of the fake stories both these governments and their cooperative media created and put out on a regular basis. It is well-documented through the work of respected historians and books devoted to the subject. The difference is, these lies were never directed toward their own head of state, as is being done now with President-elect Trump!
This new report on Trump sounds very much like the sleazy “intelligence reports” written about Adolf Hitler by the American OSS [Office of Strategic Services – precursor of the CIA] in the early 1940's. They were full of the very same type of salacious lies. You can read what I wrote about it in the beginning section of this article. Since these lies about Hitler are still repeated today, Donald Trump is right to be upset about what is being written about him, but he is wrong to name the Nazis as the prime exemplars in such behavior. In doing so, he's falling into political correctness himself.
Another reason for him to stay away from such comparisons is because the ADL is now jumping all over him for “trivializing the Holocaust” by comparing American Intelligence institutions to the Nazis. ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt immediately came out with a statement:
“ADL always has maintained that glib comparisons to Nazi Germany are offensive and a trivialization of the Holocaust. It would be helpful for the president-elect to explain his intentions or apologize for the remark.”
In my opinion, Trump deserves the trouble he's getting by saying such a stupid thing. He really should know better, not because it upsets Jews like Greenblatt but because it's not true. Of course, it's far-fetched to think mentioning Nazi Germany in itself trivializes the 'holocaust' but that's how far Jewish organizations have gone over the edge in their battle against what they call 'holocaust denial'. I don't think we've heard the end of this, and because Trump never apologizes, it just might spin in an interesting and productive direction. Or not.
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I wouldn't take it so
Anonymous
I wouldn't take it so personally. I don't believe Trump was being politically correct. He just doesn't know that World War II history is false. He knows quite a bit, and we should be very grateful that he is our President, but he isn't perfect.
I thought his press conference was absolutely terrific, even if he got it wrong about Nazi Germany.
Take it personally?
carolyn
You're phrasing that wrongly. The point is: In Nazi Germany, was it commonplace, or at least not unusual, for intelligence agencies to leak false/fake information to the public? What is the evidence for that, or where is an example? I don't think Donald Trump could come up with one that would hold water. That's why he's just saying what he knows is politically correct to say - no one will call him on that (except the ADL, but for even more politically correct reasons). He could have used a different example. And the fact that he repeated it later in the day makes it even worse.
If he starts going down this path of using anything to do with Nazis as a stand-in for whatever he considers bad, where will it end? I don't think he is all that ignorant of WWII intrigues. He should be familair with Pat Buchanen's book at least, "Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnessary War." No, his emotions got the better of him and he grabbed the Nazi label.
If it were actually a calculated tactic that he intends to continue to use, that is worse and bodes ill for holding his movement together. I believe he is a sincere man who sincerely holds revisionist views, but is he feeling pressured to take the easier road in the face of the constant attacks by his enemies?
BTW, I have a policy not to accept comments from "Annonymous." Give yourself a name or they won't be published.
Term "Nazi".
Franklin Ryckaert
In popular use the term "Nazi" now means anything bad politically, instead of a certain regime in German history, just like the term "Thug" now means any kind of ruffian, instead of member of a certain robber sect in British India, or like the term "Vandal" now means any destructive person, instead of member of a certain Germanic tribe in antiquity. Trump merely resorts to popular use of the term Nazi. We should not expect any form of WW II revisionism (let alone Holocaust revisionism) from this wholly unintellectual man.
"Nazi Germany"
carolyn
Trump didn't just say Nazi; he said Nazi Germany both times. So what you have written is not applicable. I also don't agree with it.
I do not expect him to speak in revisionist terms, but I believe he knows that much of history is a lie and he probably admires Rommel, Manstein and Gudarian just as much as he admires Patton and MacArthur but he wouldn't say so. He admires strength and competence.
NS-Propaganda stood only for the Truth
Dawn
I firstly thank you Carolyn for your post, as always I love your articles.
In resonse to "Anonymous", I could see your point about Trump simply not knowing the truth about NS-Germany, as most have not awakened to the truths. Most people only know the "jewish-narrative" which has been shoved down our throats for the last 70 years! Even in academia.... so much false propaganda out there and this is why I feel the greatest imporance be placed upon the brave Revisionists out there daring to tell the Truth and making that effort through in depth investigations. I thank them all!
As far as Trump goes.... he is just another Zionist-Puppet for AIPAC and IsraHELL and he was meant to stir up racial tensions within the US for the globalist agendas of divide and conquer tactics. Trump plays his role as racial agitator well directly timed with the George (jew) Soros creation of BLM terrorism..... Trump is the controlled opposition meant to rile the blacks into this manipulation. I find it so amazing how the idiot white-nationalists actually follw such a blatant Zionist puppet.... but the entire "alt-right" is also jewish controlled opposition.... look at the British Breitbart for example!
okay, sorry for the long rant, now here is the Goebbels quote I want to post:
"Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that the people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. The combination makes for the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other side uses the methods of influencing the masses."
DR GOEBBELS Goebbels at Nuremberg — 1934 (EXCERPT)Der Kongress zur Nürnberg 1934 (Munich: Zentralverlag der NSDAP., Frz. Eher Nachf., 1934), pp. 130-141 The Congress to Nuremberg 1934 (Munich: Central Publisher of the nsdap., French. More Nachf., 1934), PP. 130-141.
The German People
Al Milligan
Thanks Carolyn for addressing this slur on the German people. Words mean something. What Mr. Trump could have said is that the leaks about his relationship with Russia is a lot like the assurance the CIA gave us on WMDs in Iraq that caused the deaths of 100,000 men, women, and children and destroy the infrastructure of a nation causing the rise of Islamic terrorism. What did we expect these people to do who saw their nation destroyed and their families murdered? It reminds me of the fire-bombings of the major German cities and then blaming the Germans. (What would any of us have done if we had been German soldiers if we saw our beautiful Dresden burned to the ground along with the incineration our wives and children?)
So you are right to call out this capitulation on the part of Mr. Trump. Anytime we hear the German Social Nationalists being demonized by using the term ‘Nazi’ as a catch-phrase for evil and give it a pass because of ignorance we then implicitly give our consent. Thus we become what we deplore.
I was dismayed, too, when Sessions said that he would recuse himself from prosecuting HRC. He should have said that he would uphold the law where he finds it broken. But as I look at the confirmation hearings there seems to be a lot PC responses.
I was talking with a Norwegian about the so-called holocaust. He asked me what do I care? Why do I take it so seriously? (After all, it happened so long ago and the history of the 19th century was filled with wars and atrocities.) Such a callous attitude is beyond me. Since when does the truth matter? But I digress.
Churchill said that he expected history to have a good opinion of him because he intended to write it. It reminds me of the Ministry of Truth in Orwell’s 1984.
Thanks for telling the truth. It means that we still have chests. (Allusion to C.S. Lewis’s “Men Without Chests.)
Good point about Churchill
carolyn
Trump has been reported several times as saying he will return a bust of Churchill to the Oval Office that Obama had removed. I don't like Obama but he may have better taste than Trump.
I would like to send that line of Churchill's to Mr. Trump as a response to his Nazi Germany comments, but I have never found any address provided. I guess I would have to sign up for Twitter. How about you?
As to the Norwegian, typical European blindness. But it is dismaying because, as you say, they can't even stand up for themselves. As for American Republicans, most are fanatical believers that the USA is an exceptional nation that has 'saved the world' several times. However, it's the Democrats who want to keep doing it.
It's very possible that Whites just can't get it right because of the falsification of WWII history ... which largely means because of the Jews. We're always back to square one. This is what needs to be fixed first.
BTW, Al, Trump at first did
carolyn
BTW, Al, Trump at first did use the "Iraq WMD" example in countering CIA intelligence reports and leaks. But Wednesday he suddenly came up with Nazi Germany.
Probably the most important point is that Trump is being treated by the leftist forces of today just the way Hitler was treated by the leftist forces of his day. That is the only way that what is going on is like what went on in Nazi Germany. In this sense, he may be telling the truth!
Words Mean Something
Al Milligan
The shame is that we cannot make the comparison between what the Jews were doing in Germany and what is happening today without the slur of being called racist by the racists. I don’t think there is a way of reaching Mr. Trump, now. He is becoming too insulated by the left. But maybe not, I just know he is not listening to me. Myself , I see a great deal of similarity, and it’s all good.
When I said words mean something I had the good fortune to run across the video on the whistle-blowing Jew, Benjamin Freedman (I love his name!), who gives a speech called A Warning to America. (1961) The date is significant. But he tells us that no Jews are Semitic. The Arabs are Semitic. If this is true, which I have no reason to doubt, then it is the Zionist Jews who are the anti-Semites and racists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx1Rj6fHCNE
No Jew is born a Jew, just like no Christian is born a Christian. But the Zionists have institutionalized racism in order to control others through their Ministry of Truth. Benjamin Freedman’s work is easily verifiable. He challenges us in this regard to verify everything he says in this video.
What do you think?
What I think
carolyn
WhatI I think is that Jews can be born Jews. They are a distinct tribe that was formed around religious beliefs that were intended to keep them separate. They have spread all around the world, some have red hair and blue eyes, but their DNA shows significant middle eastern markers -- which European DNA does not..
Jews themselves believe they are bound by blood and that they all came from Abraham. That is a race, or at least a nation, similar to Germans being a nation.
Truthteller or Big Liar?
Hadding
"Even Goebbels always insisted that the Wehrmacht communiqués be as accurate as possible." --Konrad Kellen (Rand Corporation), Introduction to Jacques Ellul's Propaganda (1965).
I always cringe when I hear
Eddy88
I always cringe when I hear people respond with the usual Pavlovian droolings about Hitler this or Hitler that but never cite the Jewish Bolsheviks, Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin or perhaps the greatest mass murderer of all Gengrikh Yagoda.
Perhaps someone should send Trump the short video of Goebbels speech which is readily available on Youtube about the treacherous lies and manipulations of the Jewish media at that time. Not much has really changed. RE: "What Dr. Goebbels Really Said At The Sportpalast - February 10, 1933" - available on Youtube - about 4 min. 19 sec. long.
But, it's really bad when the leader of a country acts in ignorance in regard to historical facts and expecially when he acts in full knowledge of the facts and continues to cover for the lies.
Various
brucewhain
Thanks Carolyn for writing about this, don't think anyone from this side has. And thanks Eddy88 for the video suggestion. Never took the time to look at any of the Goebbels speeches and am extremely pleased with the few vids I just saw. What a contrast vs. now, with the Daily Shoah - even if it's good for Holo Denial - and that guy with the Yiddish accent and his visceral poop obsession. Everything is shit, as in "Like shit, really put the shit on the table " -meaning to lay something bare. When I was a hippie in Vermont, or a flower child at that time, there were the older supervisory aged, certain of whom talked like that, and it was supposed to be sooooo cool. You could tell them from just regular people. But now everyone seems to be worse, 'cept possibly Trump-wise: Alex Jones started lying pretty regularly when he got the message that the "righteous among nations" would be rewarded for badmouthing Obama. Then got the idea it was ok to play fire against fire in counteracting the lying antitrump rhetoric. He has not been able to recover even after a vacation taken on admitting that he was becoming unstable, during which he couldn't seem to stay off the air. Difficult to listen to any more, because of the lying. But the state of people generally is shocking thinking specifically of the inauguration protests and the pussy thing the following day. It has the fingerprints of these NGO's and is like the brainwashed people in Europe. It's extremely disturbing. Can only hope Trump Admin will be firm with the perps by locking them up. Of course the elephant in the room is the Holohoax, and people will never understand current events or anything else without being clear on the Holocaust lie. Was disturbed to find that Lippstadt has really found her niche - whereas her Emory website used to be extremely in your face with a number of important lies right on the splashpage - which always incenced me and was what first gave me the idea of suing for defamation - it's clear she spends a lot of time now perfecting these lies. (know the old revelation about how the holo-affirmers have actually perfected their lying by the deniers refuting them) It looks as if in perfecting responses to issues at Holocaust Controversies she has covered a lot of ground, lying all the way, to the point I would not know how to begin puting the lie to it. And assume a new-generation cadre of kikes will memorize this filth with the result that no one can touch them. Still I don't believe the world can be right until this lie in particular is permanently taken out of circulation, with the history of it's existence generally known. Though what will be, I suppose, will be.