The Heretics' Hour: Continued Revision of Holocaust History IS Relevant

December 10, 2013 at 12:13 pm

If Weber truly believes there were two million murdered in the Polish camps, he clearly needs to justify this with detailed evidence. Where is it? Of course, we’ll never get it.

Or is it just a “feeling” he’s got, or a wishy-washy plan to “sit in the middle” for some absurd reason and offer both sides a little bit of something, but not all they want, so he doesn’t offend anybody (but actually offends everyone).

Or, has he simply been ‘got at’? We need irreproachable men of infinite integrity to head the IHR. He clearly is not such a man.

From the truth perspective, and certainly any revisionist one, such a position (the two million) is an intellectually and morally bankrupt one to hold, and for the head of the IHR it’s obviously totally untenable. It’s no different to a total denunciation of all the fantastic work, and more importantly, the outstanding individuals who have dedicated their lives at huge personal cost to refuting the biggest lie in history, which has been no small task against insurmountable odds. Yet they have basically achieved it (in the sense it has been intellectually totally refuted, but not yet sufficiently disseminated, also difficult, I accept, but which is surely the IHR’s task.)

He has to go.

Carolyn

December 10, 2013 at 12:55 pm

If Weber truly believes there were two million murdered in the Polish camps, he clearly needs to justify this with detailed evidence. Where is it? Of course, we’ll never get it.

Or is it just a “feeling” he’s got,

You’re not paying close attention. Weber always tells us it comes from David Irving. Weber is such a coward he has to hide behind David Irving as the responsible person for his revisionist statements! This just reinforces my earlier inference that all during the 80′s and 90′s when he was writing revisionist material, Weber was “hiding” in the midst of all the other revisionists. He was adopting their views and able to competently put them into writing. He was never an original thinker or researcher, as I have said! After he he was allowed to take the helm at IHR and his laziness and incompetence as a leader was revealed, and revisionists were being arrested, tried in court and jailed for long periods, Weber decided to turn to the newly released, now chastened David Irving with his “new” position that some millions died in gas chambers in the farther East transit camps in Poland … but not at Auschwitz, since DI had already professed this fact, and it could be/had been proven.

So that’s all it is: The self-isolated Mark Weber jumps on board with the extreme egoist David Irving, whose main interest is making publicity for himself and selling books … because Weber has no character, no honor, no courage, and he needs to follow someone with a reputation.

Anglogermanic

December 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm

Yes Carolyn, I know he relies mainly on Irving, but what I’m saying is that that’s not enough for the IHR to shift position – the changing ‘opinion’ of one unreliable, opportunistic chameleon. Weber needs to justify the shift in public, written or spoken, not just stating what his position is, but the evidential basis of it, which has to be more than ‘Irving told me.’

Mary, White Advocate

December 10, 2013 at 2:26 pm

Just a couple of comments:

One reason Mark Weber has the following he does is because he is a good radio salesman. He can speak in smooth, gentle tones that can convince a lot of people who are basically uninformed or, worse, misinformed like the average American who has been thoroughly brainwashed. I am disappointed in what has happened to the IHR and wish it could be placed under new leadership.

I have been watching “The Greatest Story Never Told” and I understand your misgivings about actors portraying Hitler. Of course, we both know that the motion picture and TV industry is totally controlled by Jews and, naturally, Hitler is shown in the worst light. I have seen movies, produced in both Hollywood, CA and elsewhere, that show Hitler as a complete bumbling fool who eats carpets and who really needs to be committed to the local insane asylum. I don’t know about Mr. Wise (whom I thought might be Jewish) and where he gets the actors to do the parts of his films, but I would not be at all surprised if the studio was not run by Jews, at least at the top.

It would be nice if a movie could be made about Hitler that shows him as a leader with a vision for Germany. I wish we could resurrect D.W. Griffith (Birth of a Nation) to do such a movie as visual aids are good teaching tools as you know.

endzog

December 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm

Without wishing to state the obvious which I am about to do There could’nt be a more important topic than this issue of the Jewification of the IHR and it’s occupation by Mark Weber. Whole generations of millions of underage white children across Europe and America are being lied to and subjected to frightenening and traumatizing experiences at phoney concentration camp or museum setup horror shows like Auschwitz which undermine their self-beliief, their belief in their race and fill them with a lifetime’s guilt, especially in Germany for supposed crimes they never committed. Thanks to a large extent to Weber the white race is being genocided on the basis of the lies he either supports or for some reason wants to conceal on behalf of the Jews. Weber is a race-traitor (if he is not a Jew) and for whatever reason a criminal pure and simple. He has not only engaged in the theft of a whole organisation, but the lives, dreams and work of others. Much of which he may have copyrighted so that even if another IHR was set up he would be able to deny it the body of text the IHR encompasses. So do keep up this fight Carolyn and all allied websites should do their bit in support of this campaign to retrive the IHR. IHR rightly working can change the whole course of world history.

Carolyn

December 10, 2013 at 2:54 pm

Not to argue, Anglogermanic, but I’m still saying that he gets it directly from Irving, so the question then needs to be: Where does Irving get it? He still hasn’t published his book about it. Since Weber has allied the IHR so closely with Irving, Weber IS Irving and can be judged on this as Irving is judged.

Weber needs to justify the shift in public, written or spoken,

That’s asking for the moon. It will never happen. Even his old friend Bradley Smith couldn’t get anything out of him. So rather than waste time “asking” him to explain himself, just point out what he’s doing and watch to see who continues to support him.

Wolf

December 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm

Another fantastic show Carolyn and thank you for speaking up for millions of Germans who have laws against them speaking about anything remotely about our forebear of the holohoax.

Re: the movie of Dennis Wise so-called compilation of numerous clips, but most of all out of the film “Hitler – The Rise of Evil” “starring” the demented Robert Carlyle who has the same “I am not an anti-semite, not a racist, I love all races multicultural” rhetoric. In this compilation it even states the stupidity that Adolf Hitler was a Jew. Of course the anglomurkan morons just love this nonsense!

Dennis Wise is an anti-white codeword for white genocide nincompoop!

Carolyn

December 10, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Thank you Wolf, for clueing me in to why I never could go any further in watching that “movie” after the horrible scene of the demented (or tormented) “Hitler” giving that speech in the first segment. My (famous) “feeling” was at work telling me “Warning, bad stuff ahead.”

In Deanna Spingola’s interview of Dennis Wise, she told him the whole film was “just wonderful” and “it touched her” and her voice started quivering just at that.

With all the praise this film has been given, I wouldn’t have dreamed it would contain what you say it does further along. Now I have to watch it, at least the parts with AH.

Charles

December 10, 2013 at 7:39 pm

Carolyn,

I listened to that program with Deanna Spingola. It was the music in the film that made her tear up. It was heroic music. That’s all I’m saying.

Carolyn

December 10, 2013 at 7:56 pm

Powerful comment, endzog.

Carolyn

December 10, 2013 at 7:59 pm

Okay Charles, if I’m wrong, I’m wrong. But I didn’t hear any music when this was happening. I guess she can tear up when remembering the music?

What is your opinion of the film? I have to look at more of it now.

Charles

December 10, 2013 at 8:39 pm

Carolyn,

I really remember the music being played only because I was in the chatroom when Deanna started tearing up, and other chatterers remarked about it at the time and were critical or found her emotionalism at that moment laughable. This moment of music in the film was, she said, one of the segments about the film she found the most remarkable, which is why she asked for it to be played on the air. Good music can make almost any moment in a film better. Since I hadn’t seen the film, I could only judge it by the music, and the music was Germanic and persuasive, and heroic.

I can’t comment on the film because I was warned a long time ago not to see it if you really don’t know your history of Hitler. I was informed by a pro Hitler, German-speaking “truther” that there were many historical inaccuracies in the film. I’m still reading about Hitler and appreciating very much what I’m learning. Until I can say I know the man and all his accomplishments in good detail, I won’t see the film.

But since I’ve got your ear . . . after writing you here earlier, it soon occurred to me: a piece from the chatroom with Deanna on the 6th in the context of Michael Collins Piper’s views about the so-called hoax of Sandy Hook as analyzed through the many YouTube videos found on the Internet — after the interview had ended.

Commenters were critical of MCP’s views and said so. Deanna interjected, and said: “Further, I do not throw people under the bus that have alternative views.”

You and she have different styles. While you both are skeptical of what’s on the Internet and what’s done on videos, you voice your skepticism on the air and in your blog, but she chooses to offer deferential treatment to her guests apparently as a matter of policy on the radio. If she spots a phony, her questions alone often make the guest give himself or herself away. That’s been my impression for the longest time.

If in the film, Hitler is said to have been a Jew and Deanna never questioned that, I’m thinking such discrepancies may be, again, her policy never to throw any of her guests under the bus.

Carolyn, you know your Hitler and you are vocal. You could watch the film and be critical and watchful for any “slips.” It’s very hard to find, as you know, a good history of Hitler that doesn’t attack him. Many folk online have said they feel “good” about Hitler after watching the film, despite the misrepresentations and the inaccuracies. Some view the film as a PR campaign for Hitler. I think books would be a better way to campaign for Hitler, particularly since there are so few of them.

 Joe Northpal

December 10, 2013 at 9:23 pm

If Mark Weber pushes gassing or any other holohoax nonsense ala masturbating machines ect,, then he should be ridiculed, exposed, till he has to actually finally make an honest living.
Zundel second trial put it to rest, “no gassed body has ever been discovered or autopsied, no homicidal gas chambers have ever been discovered”, under oath, in hostile court of law from the lips of head liar raul hilberg himself.

 Carolyn

December 10, 2013 at 9:36 pm

Dear Charles, thank you for your answer, I really appreciate it.

First, from what I’ve seen so far, this same “heroic” music is played throughout the film. At least in the first two parts. It is very beautiful, but one does get a little tired of it. So I don’t see how she can be crying over the music, but at same time, I know she can. Very good advice, btw, from your German speaking friend. I totally agree with that!

Commenters were critical of MCP’s views and said so. Deanna interjected, and said: “Further, I do not throw people under the bus that have alternative views.”

That is a typical Deanna-ism, which for me is just her fear of being critical of anyone.

You and she have different styles. While you both are skeptical of what’s on the Internet and what’s done on videos, you voice your skepticism on the air and in your blog, but she chooses to offer deferential treatment to her guests apparently as a matter of policy on the radio. If she spots a phony, her questions alone often make the guest give himself or herself away. That’s been my impression for the longest time.

I say what I really think, usually in as respectful a way I can while not evading it. She doesn’t say what she thinks IF THE OTHER PERSON OR PEOPLE AROUND DON’T AGREE WITH IT, and excuses it, like John Friend, as being “considerate” of the guest. Sometimes I think she doesn’t think. (That fits John too) Her questions do not do what you’re claiming they do, imo, her questions in that case are “hit and run.” Deanna and I are very different and I don’t really like being linked with her, although she has only ever treated me in the nicest way. She likes to be nice; that’s her nature. It makes the world a nicer place, no doubt.

Charles

December 10, 2013 at 10:02 pm

Carolyn,

If you read Deanna’s writing, you can see how she thinks IMO. I do not wish to link you with her. You both are completely different. I respect you, your viewpoint, and your concerns in this matter and do understand them.

You’re good at thinking on your feet — in the moment. You give yourself the time to.

Carolyn

December 11, 2013 at 12:41 am

Joe – Kyle Hunt said on his show last night (with Tanstaafl) that he was going to have Mark Weber as his guest again next week … or on Tuesday on another host’s show. If that’s the case, it will be 3 hosts there who’ve had Weber on in a very short time period. And he was going to try to get some answers from Weber.

So you can call in with some pointed questions. Kyle’s show is at the exact same time as mine, so I cannot call into his show. In any case, I would rather others call in. I’m going to encourage that, naturally. I think Kyle likes the publicity this is bringing. I understand it’s caused a lot of talk, etc around the net, but I’m not aware of it.

Another thing, Renegade has presented itself as a “wild, radical, young crowd” yet they are loving stodgy old Mark Weber, and it turns out they don’t really think the “Holocaust” is very important.

witty_tongue

December 11, 2013 at 7:19 pm

What’s wrong with The Barnes Review? Is it a good substitute for IHR?

Wolfgang

December 11, 2013 at 8:02 pm

Hi Carolyn,

On behalf of Dennis Wise, the Producer of Adolf Hitler ‘The Greatest Story NEVER Told’ we would like to make it known he is available if you like to be a guest on your radio show and talk about this controversial film everyone is talking about.

We welcome the idea to speak openly about the content of this film and how it has effected the many people who have seen it.

Kind regards,

Wolfgang, Co Producer of the aforementioned documentary film, that was by the way made by Dennis alone, at home, no studio, no jews, no big bucks.
But I am sure he will answer those and many more questions at your leisure.

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv
Twitter @TGSNTtv

Carolyn

December 11, 2013 at 9:13 pm

TBR is a magazine, it is not an institute. I haven’t looked at it in a long time.

Carolyn

December 11, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Well, I have to watch it first, but thank you.

Bob in DC

December 12, 2013 at 3:40 am

Years ago Michael Collins Piper produced a five part audio series about the IHR coup d’etat. He later updated it with related text:

The IHR Files, Pt I

A mistake may have been made initially when Jean Edison Farrel expressed her desire to support the IHR with a bequest upon her death, via a will.

In the future, if a person of wealth honestly wants to support, it will probably be better to immediately establish some kind of living trust.

Bob

Neal Joitke

December 12, 2013 at 4:30 pm

I am prepared to comment but there are already 21 comments. I will wait
for another time. This Mark Weber has been on my shit list for over 10 years he must go. A plan of action against him is needed. I will really comment after some other Heretics Hour Show dedicated to his removal.

Nemeth

December 13, 2013 at 6:25 pm

Sounds like Carolyn calling in on the last MCP show.

Carolyn

December 13, 2013 at 7:26 pm

Nemeth, are you becoming a rumor-monger. I have NOT called in to MCP’s show for a couple of years probably. I don’t think this is a good way to express something either. I’m publishing it so I can set the record straight in case other people think the same thing.

Nemeth

December 13, 2013 at 8:13 pm

The 5th show in the IHR series that Bob in DC posted a link to. Carolyn from Texas calls in at 39:36 to express her disgust at how we are “undermined by our own peoople”. http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2011/02/21/the-ihr-files-pt-v/
It’s from February 2011.

Carolyn

December 13, 2013 at 10:42 pm

Well, ok, back then I did call. I’ll have to listen, lol.