Saturday Afternoon: Sandy Hook, Part 2

Carolyn

January 12, 2013 at 10:22 pm

Here is an article http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/15/dawn-hochsprung-sandy-hook-elementary-s-heroic-principal.html that mentions the injured woman I spoke of on the program. She was the vice-principal. Odd that her name is not given!

School therapist Diane Day, who was with her (Principal Hochsprung) when they heard a “pop, pop, pop” in the hallway, said the principal, along with psychologist Mary Sherlach and the school’s vice principal, didn’t spare a moment before running out to investigate the noise.

“They didn’t think twice about confronting or seeing what was going on,” Day told The Wall Street Journal.

Only the vice principal returned, with a gunshot to the leg. She would be the only surviving victim of the attack.

Yep, there’s a survivor, but not a peep from her after a whole month! Are they going to have her die from complications to her leg wound?

Carolyn

January 12, 2013 at 10:32 pm

Here’s a mention of her at CNN. Her name is Natalie Hammond: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/12/us/sandy-hook-timeline/index.html

Inside the school

Hochsprung heard loud pops. She, school psychologist Mary Sherlach and vice principal Natalie Hammond went out to investigate.

Only Hammond returned from the hallway alive. She was wounded.

At about 9:30 a.m., as announcements were read over the loudspeaker to the students, shots were heard across the school. Students described being ushered into bathrooms and closets by teachers after hearing the first shots.

Lanza moved toward two classrooms of kindergartners and first-graders, police said.

In one classroom was Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher who was filling in for a teacher out on maternity leave. The gunman shot all 14 students in the classroom, law enforcement officers said.

In another classroom, Victoria Soto, 27, moved her first-grade students away from the door. The gunman burst in and shot her, according to the father of a surviving student. Six students were killed in that classroom.

Also … this page was just updated today, 1-12-13: http://www.legitgov.org/Principal-Psychologist-shot-and-killed-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School

Principal, Psychologist shot and killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School
December 15, 2012 by legitgov
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Principal, Psychologist shot and killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School 14 Dec 2012 CNN reports that an eyewitness in Sandy Hook Elementary School said that while in a meeting at 9:35 am, she heard the “pop-pop-pop” in the hall. Three people, the principal, vice principal and school psychologist were killed in the hallway (sic), with only the vice principal returning with injuries to his leg/foot. The shooting happened in the hallway, and the eyewitness said there had to be at least 100 rounds shot. When leaving the meeting room, she reports that she saw the bodies of the principal and school psychologist lying in “a pool of blood” in the hallway. According to the Sandy Hook Elementary School web site the principal is Dawn Hochsprung, and the school psychologist is listed as Mary Sherlach. The vice principal’s name is not listed.

Carolyn

January 12, 2013 at 10:53 pm

On the Sandy Hook Elementary School website http://newtown.sandyhook.schooldesk.net/Staff/StaffDirectory/tabid/17319/Default.aspx, Cathy Mazzariello is listed as Assistant Principal and Natalie Hammond as Lead Teacher. I cannot find the fairly extensive story about Natalie Hammond that I read, in which another teacher (or two?) was describing what a great person she was and that she would recover from her wounds and be back at Sandy Hook and do a great job. I’m sure the name was more like Natalie, not Cathy Mazzariello. I think this news story has been scrubbed.

They may have gotten her position wrong; the journalism of today really sucks. But neither of these women are ever mentioned now.

Beth

January 13, 2013 at 1:49 am

Nice discussion Carolyn.

KBarrett’s show with “Sandy Hook Conspiracy Debunker” (more like, Re-Bunker!) Jeff Prager- what a zio-manwhore! Claims repeatedly that the 2 infamous Emilie Parker pics, one with family and later with Obama- look nothing alike!

MP3 of show:
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Truth-Jihad-32k-010913.mp3

separately, check out this 5 min vid showing how CNN was hoaxing dramatic “live from Saudi Arabia” coverage during gulf war 1,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijdj_y0B9BY

Brit in Norway

January 13, 2013 at 6:51 am

Carolyn I thought your analysis was good on Sandy Hook in this show. Regarding the question of who would shoot children?, the answer is a psychopath will do it if there is enough utility in it. Obviously the Jewish power elite are heavily psycopathic. I would like to think that a society controlled by white nationalism would do all in it s power to eradicate psycopathy, as there are of course whites who manifest the trait. (high level Masonic traitors for example.) perhaps Christian Identity believers would argue these type of people are not truly white in the first place. It Is a complex subject of course but a lot more is being found out now about psycopathy. I have often wondered about it s link to the Jewish problem.

Carolyn

January 13, 2013 at 9:56 am

Claims repeatedly that the 2 infamous Emilie Parker pics, one with family and later with Obama- look nothing alike!

They do look alike, but they are not the same girl. As I repeated on the program, they are closer to the same age in those two pictures and are very, very similar looking sisters. What people seem to want to ignore in their rush to make extravagant claims is that the first family photo with Emilie is not dated. They are assuming it is recent, like December 2012. More likely it’s December 2011 when Emilie would have been 5.

I removed your Incogman link, and another one. What he is doing with the Sandy Hook graphic is exactly what I am warning against: For him, and many others, EVERYTHING that ever happens of a bad nature is done by MOSSAD. Without doing investigation and without evidence for it, they scream Mossad immediately. It’s ridiculous and plays into the hands of the Jews. You have to wonder.

hilmar

January 13, 2013 at 10:35 am

The Gene Rosen interviews, of which I have seen seven different versions, show us exactly what kind of response to Sandy Hook the ZOG-media wants the populace to recognize as being appropriate and acceptable.

Notice how the effeminate, emotional, sobbing and helpless male is consistently lauded and embraced by the hosts, and how he is presented as a paragon of citizenhood.

Why is that?

To me it’s pretty clear. ZOG-media wish to convey the message that meek passivity and emotionality is rewarded with acceptance and status.

Rosen tells two stories in his interviews. One explicit (which may or may not refer to anything which actually happened), and one implicit, which is the most interesting in my observation.

What Rosen tells implicitly through his body language, his never failing sobbing and blubbering, is this: “I am only a poor helpless citizen with a kind and gentle heart, but the world is so evil. Please come and help me, oh benevolent government. I surrender myself completely to the authorities.”

Why else would his ridiculous and inconsequential story be in such high demand among all the biggest ZOG-networks?

Carolyn

January 13, 2013 at 11:17 am

Regarding the question of who would shoot children?, the answer is a psychopath will do it if there is enough utility in it.

Brit – Adam Lanza was not a psychopath so HE is not someone who would carry out such an act. One problem they are having with Lanza is with motive. They are failing in this.
As to your comments, you are big on generalizations, but I wish you would be more specific in your accusations. You mention the Jewish power elite, psychopaths and Masonic traitors as if you are an expert on them. How do you see the role that they played?

Brit in Norway

January 13, 2013 at 12:09 pm

Carolyn im sorry if my meaning was not clear. I do not believe the official Sandy Hook story. So when I talk about psychopaths, I am not talking about lanza. I am saying that the psycopathic elite will shoot children to achieve goals. You Have covered ritual murder, which is the same thing. That said, having looked at
your links I agree they have been
sing actors at least in part in Sandy Hook. Whether it s a complete hoax or a mixture of fake witnesses and some shot kids, we will see. I got the impression you leaned to the latter view .
I agree normal people do not shoot children.

Carolyn

January 13, 2013 at 1:05 pm

So when I talk about psychopaths, I am not talking about lanza. I am saying that the psycopathic elite will shoot children to achieve goals.

I knew you did not mean Lanza. But who then do you mean? Who is “the psycopathic elite?” You are just throwing that phrase out there, instead of answering my question as to what role they played in Sandy Hook.

You Have covered ritual murder, which is the same thing.

I don’t think it is the same thing. Jewish ritual murder was sanctioned by their tribal-religio teachings in their “sacred” books. I am coming to see Sandy Hook as an act of political terrorism staged by Globalists to force the disarming of the American public … period. If this doesn’t accomplish it, there will just be more. For this reason, we need to expose this now. We won’t do it by making general, mindless attacks on Jews. At this point, I can’t explain what part would be hoax and what part real. I do know they design these things (well in advance) to include lots of false leads and confusing rumors … and also controlled opposition within the “truther” groups. Thus I am highly suspicious of those who participate in the “opposition.” For me, I have to go by my feeling about people. My feelings have never been wrong. Investigating people after my “bad feeling” about them, I’ve always found them to have shady pasts and fit the profile of a disinfo agent. It’s true they’re often Jewish or have strong Jewish connections.

hilmar

January 13, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Thank you for doing these webcasts, Carolyn, on an important subject.

In this second installment of your Sandy Hook series, however, you unfortunately seem to waste a lot of time on exactly what you warn about in your preface. Let me explain.

You preface the webcast with some very cogent written statements:

We need to understand that the real danger is from our public media, which is the ultimate WMD, or weapon of mass destruction, for our people.

the danger within the “alternative media” and/or “truth movement” of getting bogged down in debate over details of little consequence

We apparently agree that the media disinfo/mindcontrol angle is the most productive to pursue. Such a shame, then, for you to waste your critical thinking faculties and 95% of the webcast attempting to analyze en detail the tedious minutiae of innumerable rumours and cul-de-sac conjecture out there in the “truth-movement”.

What matters is the agenda pursued and psychic control methods employed by ZOG-media in exploiting shootings, real or fabricated (some are probably real, some are probably not).

Attempts at determining whether this or that picture is doctored or whether this or that witness is an actor is exactly what you write in the preface:

getting bogged down in debate over details of little consequence

I agree with the statements you make in the very beginning and towards the very end of the webcast about ZOG-media deliberately instilling constant ambient fear/childlike mentality in the public, and that the attack on our faculties of perception is the most lethal.

I.M.O. you should have spent the entire webcast focusing exclusively on those two analyses.

The multitude of differing theories and conjecture about satanism, mossad, multiple shooters, actors, photoshopping, etc., etc. are not worthless per se, but trying to cover them all in one installment, leaves a slightly confused and superficial impression.

I hope you take this as the constructive and supportive criticism that it is.

Brit in Norway

January 13, 2013 at 4:50 pm

Carolyn I Will send you a Mail.

DC

January 14, 2013 at 11:46 am

I’m not sure if this guy has any evidence to back up his claim, but it’s an interesting theory and a possible motive from someone who is obviously aware of Jewish control structure in America.
In the PressTV interview, Mike Harris says Israel did Sandy Hook and has Death Squads operating within America that carried out the incident as a revenge attack for losing their bid to thwart Palestine’s recognition in the UN.
http://www.jettandjahn.com/2013/01/israel-did-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting/

Carolyn

January 14, 2013 at 1:25 pm

DC – This is extremely far-fetched and he has no evidence. I was reluctant to post your comment, as I suspect people who come out of the blue with links for programs like this are part of an agenda or a friend of the show guest or host. But I imagine this program has been circulated quite a bit so your curiosity may be legit.

Anyway it gives me the opportunity to say that Mike Harris is the “vice-president for media” or some such title at Gordon Duff’s Veterans Today website. That is a team of govt. affiliated disinfo agents who jump into just these type of psyops as “investigators” and “truth tellers.” They take their readers/listeners in all crazy directions to, among other things, give the mainstream an opportunity to paint “truthers” as irresponsible conspiracy nuts and Jew/Israel haters. Putting out theories like this so fast is the equivalent of the authorities/police putting out their solution of the crime in a few hours! Or even, unbelievably, within the hour sometimes.

John

January 14, 2013 at 7:52 pm

Good analysis of the Mike Harris clip, Carolyn.

While listening today, I hoped for you to skype call the stores and restaurants in Newtown for some ground truth, like Jim Giles used to do. Is kind of trail blazing something we could expect in future installments?

DC

January 14, 2013 at 10:00 pm

Hi Carolyn,

Not pushing an agenda. I’m a regular listener of your shows, but a first time commenter with no ties to this Mike guy. I did not realize he was so high up in the VT hierarchy, however the alleged motive seemed at least somewhat plausible to me considering the parallels with the Anders Breivik event in 2011, but as you say it is far fetched and if no evidence can be found the best it can be called a “theory”.

Yes in the interview Mike seemed to be stating it emphatically as if it were a proven fact, but without presenting any evidence which is suspicious.

Don

January 21, 2013 at 1:58 am

It’s more than a month after the Sandy Hook shooting and I am unable to find a single photo of the actual rifle used in the shooting. All of the photos of the “AR-15″ are generic with different barrel lengths, stock types, sights, etc., apparently obtained from the manufacturer’s web site or from some other source. Bushmaster’s web site shows about half a dozen different versions of the AR-15 varying according to barrel length, stock type, sights, receiver, etc. HAS ANYONE SEEN A PHOTO OF THE ACTUAL RIFLE? If so, could you post a link?

Also, the medical examiner stated he could not identify the caliber of bullets recovered from the victims. If he can’t determine the caliber of the bullets, then he can’t identify the weapon that shot them. It’s that simple.

Carolyn

January 21, 2013 at 11:48 am

I wrote on 1-12-13 at 10:53 pm:

I cannot find the fairly extensive story about Natalie Hammond that I read, in which another teacher (or two?) was describing what a great person she was and that she would recover from her wounds and be back at Sandy Hook and do a great job. I’m sure the name was more like Natalie, not Cathy Mazzariello. I think this news story has been scrubbed.

I just came across the story at newstimes.com http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Sandy-Hook-survivor-s-wit-and-will-a-weapon-for-4125396.php, from Dec. 17th. Anika Sonski was interviewed about the survivor.

Hammond is “just an incredible person … a great mom,” said Anika Sonski, of Naugatuck, Hammond’s best friend of 22 years, a roommate and sorority sister at Gettysburg College where Hammond earned an elementary education and sociology degree in 1994.

Hammond, the recently promoted lead teacher at the school, is one of two wounded survivors of the nightmare that befell Sandy Hook on Friday.

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Sandy-Hook-survivor-s-wit-and-will-a-weapon-for-4125396.php#ixzz2Id4iXh43

Lurker

February 1, 2013 at 11:58 pm

Wanted to comment on part 1, but the site wont give me the option. Even in different browsers.

This Martin guy talked about the Parachute Regiment running a hospital. Sorry, this is just not true. They do not run hospitals, the army run hospitals yes, but infantry units do not run their own hospitals, why on earth would he say such a thing?

Jeez! He didnt even get the name of the hospital right, it was the Princess Alexandra hospital and it was run by the RAF (the airforce) its now closed and its easily verifiable that most casualties were taken to the local (non-military) hospital.

Also the Parachute regiments nominal home base is in Aldershot, miles away from Hungerford.

Im afraid I dont trust this Martin bloke at all. Doesnt mean there arent question marks over Hungerford but propagating blatant nonsense doesnt help.

Martin

February 2, 2013 at 7:08 am

Lurker, I clearly differentiated between the Princess Alexandra and Princess Margaret hospitals. The former was openly an RAF hospital, the latter supposedly a regular hospital whose connections/associations with RAF staff I demonstrated in the cluesforum thread.

Both hospitals are now shut down. I never said otherwise.

Yes, I know Aldershot is the base of the Paras. What’s your point? Former Mayor of Hungerford, Ron Tarry, is an ex-Para. Major Robert C Shepherd, Commanding Officer Army Element at Princess MARGARET Hospital (yes, that’s right, Princess Margaret, as records clearly show) was trained by the Paras.

To clarify, it seems likely that individuals with connections to the Royal family or high level freemasonry, who were trained in the Paras, may have managed key elements of this psychological operation. Am I being precise enough for you there?

Finally, you say you don’t trust me. Please actually READ my thread on the Hungerford Massacre at Cluesforum, then maybe try bringing something constructive to the table.