The Heretics' Hour: Elie Wiesel and Gottfried Feder in the limelight

Jimmy Marr

September 4, 2012 at 9:29 am

Carolyn,

As I listened to Hadding talk about the financial theory of Gottfried Feder, I was reminded of a question that I have been meaning to ask about William Pierce.

I’ve seen and heard segments of Pierce’s work where he discusses Jewish ownership of media, but I don’t recall seeing any of his work describing the mechanism by which Jews were able to acquire that media.

I assume that Jewish acquisition and development of media was and is secondary to and enabled by the Jewish monopoly on the creation and issuance of currency as debt.

Do you know if William Pierce ever expressed his thoughts about any such relationship?

Hadding

September 4, 2012 at 10:46 am

I never noticed that Dr. Pierce had much interest in Jewish dominance of finance. I think he probably felt that right-wing media beat that subject to death with talk about “banksters” etc.

Mass-media are the means whereby the Jews do their worst damage in this country. Calling attention to Jewish dominance of mass-media is a way to get people to understand both the Jewish Problem and why they can’t trust mass-media.

The problem of Jewish ownership of media was not as severe in Germany because one of Germany’s greatest media-magnates, Alfred Hugenberg, was a nationalist who threw his support behind Hitler.

Control of mass-media is more powerful than control of banking. Whoever controls mass-media can induce changes in the regulations that govern banking.

Bob Morane

September 4, 2012 at 10:54 am

I very much like the German music you play after the first hour of your show but not speaking German I cannot grasp the name of the singer. Could you write it for me as well as the name of the album ?
Thanks in advance.

Carolyn

September 4, 2012 at 11:31 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcv9O08TGbU&bpctr=1346774109

Group: Sleipnir
Song: Opa ich vermisse dich! (Grandad, I miss you!)
I don’t know the name of the album. It’s from a few years back. Maybe you can find out from that page.

Bob Morane

September 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm

Thank you, when I click the YouTube link you mention I get the message:

“The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as being potentially offensive or
inappropriate. Viewer discretion is advised.”

Truly outrageous but what else do you expect from YouTube ?
Wonderful song even if I don’t understand it.

Jimmy Marr

September 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm

“Control of mass-media is more powerful than control of banking. Whoever controls mass-media can induce changes in the regulations that govern banking.”

I don’t want to invest too much time on chicken vs. egg, but if things were as simple as that I’d just go to the bank and arrange to buy Clear Channel for Carolyn (provided I was able to exert a modest discretionary influence on her choice of guests).

I like the idea that Feder was an electrical engineer, which is what made me think of Pierce. The money cycle may be analogous to an electrical circuit. Imagine the Federal Reserve Corporation as the anode, and the Internal Revenue Service as the cathode. The economy itself can be as complicated as you like. Imagine a printed circuit board.

Puts a whole new spin on electronic money.

Carolyn

September 4, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Bob – try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcv9O08TGbU

The words were translated by Etienne awhile back:

It’s one of these days
when we’re at grandma’s
It smells of cakes and coffee.
We hang on her words
Her tears are not to be overlooked
When she tells of grandad.
They all walked a hard road in those days
And I look at the pictures
On grandma’s wall.

(Chorus)
Grandad I miss you
And I firmly believe
Whatever people say
You were a good man.
Grandma said you were a hero
Who gave his life for the country
Her tears did not lie
And I wish I had known you.

She told of a time
Unthinkable for us
Made up of tears, joy and pain
And always when she said “grandad”, her voice sounded soft and warm
She shut her eyes, and fell sleeping on my arm.
They all walked a hard road in those days
And I look at the pictures
On grandma’s wall.

(chorus)
(chorus)

Jimmy Marr

September 4, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Fortunately for Feder, the German economy was not an integrated circuit.

Hadding

September 4, 2012 at 6:01 pm

I doubt that you as a non-Jew could buy Viacom off of Sumner Redstone for anything like a fair selling price, if you could get that much money. You can’t force Jews to sell the source of Jewish power and they probably would not.

It really is the mass-media, not banks, that hold the ultimate power in a country with an elected government.

Jimmy Marr

September 5, 2012 at 12:54 am

“It really is the mass-media, not banks, that hold the ultimate power”

Alright then, if you insist, for $64,000, name the first piece of mind control propaganda produced by the mass-media.

Hadding

September 5, 2012 at 10:07 am

The question is extremely vague. I could only guess what you might have in mind.

Jimmy Marr

September 5, 2012 at 1:25 pm

At $64,000, that question was practically a gimme, but I do confess and apologize for attempting to lead you into anti-Christian comment by unfairly characterizing the work as “mind control propaganda”.

The money shot was, of course, “Gutenberg Bible”.

As a consolation prize, I’m sending you $20 gift certificate redeemable for merchandize of your choice at Doc Johnson Enterprises.

Jimmy Marr

September 5, 2012 at 2:13 pm

As an act of contrition, I confess an admiration for the biblical account of a righteous man who attacked the money changers as the root of all evil.

This is not to claim that money is more important than media, but that it IS the media.

Hadding

September 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm

I seem to have been mistaken when I said that Feder’s focus as an engineer was in electrical engineering. He seems to have been involved in construction of buildings and ships.

Jimmy Marr

September 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm

“I seem to have been mistaken”

Damn it all, Hadding. Did you have to come out with this just when I had made such a brilliant start on my theory of Esoteric Federism?

Lurker

September 6, 2012 at 10:16 pm

Very minor point – Arriva in the UK is not strictly a railroad. Its a rail operating business, the railway track/infrastructure are owned by the government and Arriva (and others) use that track to operate on. Its nit picky of me but a railroad implies a company that owns both the track and runs the trains. But yes, Arriva is now owned by DB.

Amtrak was mentioned by Hadding and thats in fact 180 degrees opposite. Amtrak is a government owned rail operating entity but it pays to run on tracks owned largely by the private railroad corporations. Thats probably one explanation for why Amtrak isnt profitable – effectively its a conduit for federal funds to subsidize the railroad corporations. Amtrak also takes on the pension obligations for defunct railroad. ie its not designed to profitable, thats not its real function.

I dont think support for Amtrak is totally cynical corporate welfare, the US government probably wants to maintain a minimum level of railroad mileage for strategic reasons and Amtrak is the public face of that.

Hadding

September 7, 2012 at 9:18 am

@Lurker Passenger rail services used to depend on mail to make them profitable. Amtrak certainly would be far less unprofitable (and even profitable, I believe) if the government required the Postal Service to use Amtrak to the extent feasible.

Lurker

September 8, 2012 at 1:10 am

Hadding – Totally agree with you. I was just throwing in a few minor points. Amtrak could certainly be made more effective, I wasnt seeking to detract from the points you made, sorry if that how it seemed.