Saturday Afternoon: Should we accept the truth of the Protocols of Zion?
Nov. 3, 2012
Carolyn wades into the controversy that so many want to bury once and for all — whether the Protocols of the Elders of Zion should be taken seriously or thrown into the trashcan of literary forgeries.
- A search through the Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu for the alleged parallel passages found in the Protocols leaves much to be desired;
- Only the first two of the three similar passages shown on Wikipedia can be found;
- The narrative of how the forgery occurred published in The Times is not believable (kind of like the narrative of the ‘Holocaust’);
- More believable is the story of Mlle. Glinka and Alexis Sukhotin, and the Jewish traitor Joseph Schorst;
- The relationship between Maurice Joly (author of “Dialogue”) and Adolphe Cremieux (Grand Master of the Mizraim Lodge and a founder of the Alliance Israelite Universelle);
- The Berne, Switzerland trial as a typical legal travesty that is so often resorted to;
- Layers of disinformation and confusion make the trail to the truth about the Protocols difficult, but investigation should be undertaken;
- Fear of Jewish retribution is a big reason Whites stay away from the topic, or are satisfied with a non-committal stand.
Image: The original article “exposing the forgery” in The Times of London from August 1921.
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EditorNEMW
November 3, 2012 at 8:49 pm
It’s legit to me.
Carolyn
November 4, 2012 at 12:16 am
How about this, David? “Masonic” is always used instead of “Jewish”:
“To perpetuate the decline of Napoleon III, Joly was chosen in 1860 to take up the cause, which culminated in the Dialogues of Geneva in 1865. How could Joly, a Rosicrucian Freemason, know of the Communist goings-on in Geneva, which caused the London Times to call his book the Dialogues of Geneva? Joly was neither a member of the Templar Scottish Rite of Grand Orient Freemasonry, nor its left-wing Communist Party. He hated Communism and would not have attended their meetings if invited. [Joly was a Socialist.]
“Here is where Cremieux comes in. As Supreme Commander of the Scottish Rite of Grand Orient Freemasonry, Cremieux was well aware of the agenda of the communist meetings at the Masonic lodge at Geneva and may have attended himself. He is known to have induced Joly to write the Dialogues. [How known?] Whether Cremieux actually handed Joly minutes of those Machiavellian meetings or verbally informed him of their contents is not known. In any case, Cremieux, a fellow Rosicrucian and intimate of Joly, most certainly guided him in the contents of his writings.
“This is a Masonic modus operandi — as we have seen previously in the relationship between Frederick Engels and Karl Marx. Marx followed Engels’s suggestions, putting them in revolutionary form. Likewise, two decades later Cremieux suggested what Joly should write. Joly, a government lawyer prior to the Emperor’s rise to power, would be credible. Joly’s articles implied that the Machiavellian decisions of the several Geneva Communist congresses were the Emperor’s plans for the destruction of France.
“Joly wrote only under the guarantee of anonymity; hence the pseudonym, Mr. X. Yet, in order to arouse public opinion, the author had to be revealed as someone with authority – someone acquainted with the political climate of the day. Joly, therefore, was betrayed two months after publication. As a result of this unusual and swift exposure, he was tried, convicted, and sentenced to two years in prison.
“Who were the winners? First, Rosicrucian English Freemasonry, now rid of the man (Napoleon III) who ousted the oligarchy’s occupation forces from Italy. Second, French Templar Grand Orient Freemasonry, which deposed an Emperor for refusing to take orders from his Masonic hierarchy. Third, Cremieux, whose vengeance was the deposing of Napoleon III for denying him (a particular) high political office. Cremieux’s revenge, however, had far-reaching consequences. For example, Joly’s book contributed to the release of documents called The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion.
“… it is plausible to suggest that the Protocols were not a plagiarism of Joly’s book at all, but were the actual minutes to the Marxist revolutionary meetings held in the Masonic lodge at Geneva. As earlier suggested, these notes may have been given to Joly by Cremieux. This author’s hypothesis is that Joly plagiarized the Geneva minutes, which he reshaped into the Dialogues of Geneva.”
Beth
November 4, 2012 at 2:33 am
Carolyn, I wonder if that JDL email you mentioned at the top resembled the one received by Mark Glenn, and later by John Friend?
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/a-sunday-morning-email-from-someone-claiming-to-be-from-the-jdl
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/open-letter-to-all-members-of-the-jewish-defense-league-concerning-the-threats-of-physical-violence-i-received-today
http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/greetings-from-jdf.html
if so you should respond as they did: ferociously. Dedicated blog entry. Inform the FBI. Spend podcast time discussing. Be guest on other podcasts to discuss. etc! JDL has already been designated a terrorist org by the FBI.
Carolyn
November 4, 2012 at 8:47 am
The same.
Carolyn
November 4, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Sorry about some of the bad links in the post text; they are fixed now. All the links work.
Charles Traynor
November 13, 2012 at 9:57 am
Congratulations on coming to the attention of the forces of darkness. This JDL threat proves beyond doubt that your work of exposing the Holocaust Lie and the Jews destructive influence on our race and civilization is having a real effect.
We all know Carolyn Yeager is a tough lady, but you are still a woman, and this must have been very upsetting for you. I really do admire you for carrying on with your WN shows despite the cowardly Jewish attempts to scare you of the air.
I agree with Beth that you should use this to your advantage. Publish an essay on your website or perhaps a WN show focusing on Jewish terror tactics?
Please keep us updated on this email incident.
Carolyn
November 13, 2012 at 10:35 am
It was just one email that was copied to several people. One can’t even be sure that it is coming from JDL, or someone playing games. I don’t want to encourage more game-playing.
Carolyn
November 21, 2012 at 11:08 am
Here is the second email from The Jewish Defense League, received this morning, with the subject heading “Greetings from the JDL”:
Rick1
November 21, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The jdl-types are likely just lashing out at everyone because of what is happening to Israel. I’m sure they are frustrated that Israel didn’t massacre everyone in Gaza, and are horrified that Israel’s enemies in the region are now working together. The celebrating in the streets of Gaza due to the strike in Tel Aviv and the back-down by Israel must really make the jdl-types cringe. Expect more hysterical outbursts as the realization that Israel’s situation is not sustainable becomes more clear.
I think the Anonymous types are more troublesome than the jdl, which may not even exist in any coherent form. Wikipedia says the jdl.org site has been offline since last month and they have had schisms or something prior to that.
In general though, be careful about opening any e-mail attachments. It appears that James Kelso opened an attachment that installed a keyboard logger on his computer and that is how Anonymous was able to obtain his passwords, credit card info, A3O details, etc.
Carl
November 21, 2012 at 8:07 pm
What gets me laughing is, the idea that we chose them as enemies! Hilarious! They are forever targeting us, as is clear from their private religious documents and the Protocols.
By the way I will look forward to the Thanksgiving Day edition of the Protocols. While most people will be watching some rot on the telly, we on the White network can be edified!
Carl
November 21, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Incidentally I happened across a television yesterday, and I couldn’t believe my ears. They were actually debating, on fox news, whether or not the media are biased against Israel.
I leave you to your gales of laughter. Happy Thanksgiving.
Carolyn
November 22, 2012 at 12:38 am
Thanks Carl. We’ll try to make it an especially good show just for you!
Carl
November 22, 2012 at 4:47 pm
See, kids, how it is for donors! Join the club! They’ll make shows especially good just for you!