Rodney Martin has gone beyond the pale, part 2

Published by carolyn on Wed, 2013-12-18 19:22

By Carolyn Yeager
Continued from Part One

In Part Two, I will respond to the rest of the emergency "defense" put on by Rodney Martin in his radio podcast of Dec. 14, 2012 on the ANN-Blog Talk network. After I complete this, I will not have any more written responses to Rodney Martin no matter what kind of confused data he manages to come up with. I have no intention of straightening out his ignorant errors, especially because I think only a minuscule number of people are paying attention to him. It should be pointed out his website has an Alexa global ranking of over 8 million, with an average one page view per visitor! Can it get any worse than that? 

I have organized Part Two by subject matter. Once again, some of my comments are in blue. First up is:

IHR (Institute for Historical Review) and Mark Weber

"Carolyn says I started WVFoundations to compete with the IHR. That is patently false and she knows it. […] I started WVF because of a philosophical disagreement I had with Mark Weber and he knows it."

"I'm sorry, but the battle between Willis Carto and Mark Weber is done and dead and buried and it's done, over." [Not according to Michael Collins Piper, long-time employee and friend of Willis Carto, who gives the impression they think it's very much alive! (2/3 way through the linked program)]

"I have FUNDAMENTAL disagreements with Mark Weber over the holocaust. However, we do not want to see the IHR collapse and close up shop. Where else can I show 3rd Reich films!  BTW, there has been a consistent, a consistent program of 3rd Reich films shown down at the IHR – some of them I've been involved with, some of them I've not – just because we don't publicize them [why not?], just because Carolyn doesn't get the memo, doesn't mean they're not happening."

Rodney implies they were in some kind of memo. I searched on the IHR website and found NOTHING on any film event of any kind. Is Rodney lying? Or do they not want anyone to know that once in awhile they screen a German film to a select few? It does not make any sense, just as nothing Rod says, and Weber too, makes any sense.

Since Rodney faulted me of not having a source for what I related about Wilhelm Kriessmann - since we can't ask him because he is deceased - I am forced to go to my Skype chats with Rodney to prove what he said and what I said. Our skype contact began on June 26, 2012 and ended April 15, 2013. This is what I found on this topic:

[7/6/2012 9:39:01 PM] Director WVFoundations: Right after Weber sent that "Hacking" email out, he had a Fundraisng alert on the IHR site telling how they had been hacked and needed money to keep up the fight. It was scrubbed within an hour, no mention at all

[7/6/2012 9:39:48 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Yes, I got the same emails.

[8/4/2012 8:03:21 AM] Director WVFoundations: yes, Weber and Johnson are in cahoots. Weber has been cross marketing the IHR list and promoting Counter-Currents. Johnson lists his address as San Francisco, but he is actually way south in Santa Maria. Watch for a IHR-Counter Currents merger.

[8/4/2012 8:14:27 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Hi Rodney, will you be on my Saturday Afternoon program today?

[8/4/2012 8:14:44 AM] Director WVFoundations: via skype?

[8/4/2012 8:14:53 AM] Carolyn Yeager: I'm in so much problem with my website, which I will explain on air. Yes skype. I'm just behind n doing everything.

[8/4/2012 8:15:15 AM] Director WVFoundations: happy to come on - the Villiage idiot Johnson was on Spingola yesterday, I am going on next week and rebut him.

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[8/4/2012 11:21:00 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Topic??: Mark Weber's plagiarism. I talked previously about how he did a program on the NS smoking campaign and other health programs a short time AFTER I did one on the HH (with Rodney, at his suggestion). Last Wednesday he did Christianity in the Third Reich, which I, partly with you, have done about 3 programs on and he didn't say a thing I had not said. Now, after I mentioned Walter Sanning's work on Monday, he posts this Sanning piece from the IHR archives in his latest News and Views. It goes on and on like this. (No reply from Rodney)

This program was the real last one I did with him; I didn't search far enough in Part One. The program post read as follows:

Aug 4, 2012 ---Rodney Martin of World View Foundations is Carolyn’s guest for a discussion that begins with the beautiful Nadja Drygalla (pictured right), the German Olympic rower who was sent home from London like a bad child when it was publicized that her boyfriend was “a member of the ‘Rostock National Socialists’” who had run in a state election on the NPD (National Party) ticket. Martin also reported on Greek triple jumper Voula Papachristou, said to be a supporter of Golden Dawn, who was expelled from the games for a “racist tweet.”

In the second hour, Rodney and Carolyn turn to the subject of Greg Johnson and Mark Weberthe former’s confusing Old Right-New Right formalization, and how the  latter’s bad management and laziness  has turned the once prestigious IHR into a failing and continually broke organization. The question then asked was whether these two are working together for some purpose.

[8/4/2012 9:06:15 PM] Carolyn Yeager: I see you writing. I just came over here to ask about this: “Weber has been cross marketing the IHR list and promoting Counter-Currents.” I didn't remember to mention this; actually I was a bit afraid of it since I don't really understand the meaning. (No reply from Rodney)

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[9/1/2012 10:25:40 AM] Director WVFoundations: Boy, Johnson and his queer cabal attacked you on Counter Currents

[9/1/2012 10:26:06 AM] Carolyn Yeager: I know

[9/1/2012 10:47:36 AM] Director WVFoundations: I am getting some excellent IHR info. It is worse than you think, I was right about them being gone in a year

[9/1/2012 11:08:55 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Great, I'll talk to you later. I'm getting ready for a program.

[9/1/2012 11:09:24 AM] Director WVFoundations: THEY HAVE LESS THAN 85k REPORTED IN 2012 FILING

[9/4/2012 7:49:33 PM] Director WVFoundations: I am not in this for commercial purposes

[9/4/2012 7:50:41 PM] Carolyn Yeager: I know, but you are in a big hurry to be seen as the expert on NS, etc. but I just don't think you are, just to be perfectly frank. I think you would do a better job if you slowed down a little. I mean that sincerely as a friend.

[9/4/2012 7:51:17 PM] Director WVFoundations: I have other objectives

[9/4/2012 7:51:49 PM] Carolyn Yeager: But I know that is your personality and you can't really help it. You are a go=getter.

[9/4/2012 8:02:22 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Here's what I think. I don't want to get emails from your Foundation several times a day telling me what you PLAN to do, what is COMING UP. That irritates me. When you have something ready to look at, then tell me. I have plenty to think about on my own

[9/4/2012 8:02:49 PM] Director WVFoundations: We are stopping all emails. We are going to do digests ONLY for those who sign up for it. emails are taking too much time and labor

[9/4/2012 8:07:33 PM] Director WVFoundations: I am only going to be doing 3 things, look for a building, radio, and Oral History I have 3 more writers comeing so I don't have to do so much.

[9/4/2012 8:08:04 PM] Carolyn Yeager: You're looking for a building??!

[9/4/2012 8:08:08 PM] Director WVFoundations: yes. we have to have a real facility for Conferences, Seminars, meetings, etc. NO IHR warehouse for the Mark Weber Fan Club. I told you I have other objectives. Also, not in LA in enemy territory.

[9/4/2012 8:09:27 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Where are you looking?

[9/4/2012 8:10:45 PM] Director WVFoundations: We MUST be in a Anti-Slap State for legal protection, otherwise Morris the Sleeze Des will attempt to sue us out of business, that is a main requirement, the second is cost. I want to own the facility so no landlord can be our master

[9/4/2012 8:11:31 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Well, good luck. A big job.

[9/4/2012 8:12:21 PM] Director WVFoundations: it's not as big as I thought. the market is great right now and if done right, i.e. learning the lesson of the IHR, I think we can to it. I want to make a real home for Revisionism to meet and for REAL Pro-White Groups to meet and a HQ for research, speaking and publishing I looked at building that was in bankruptcy 2 weeks ago, it was $85K

[9/4/2012 8:15:23 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Too bad you couldn't buy out the IHR and have Germar Rudolf and Arthur Butz run it ... :)

[9/4/2012 8:16:01 PM] Director WVFoundations: Rudolf should be the Exec Dir - I heard that Butz is stying away, is that true?

[9/4/2012 8:17:09 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Maybe waiting awhile will bring it down to a rockbottom price. Well, Butz doesn't want to appear anywhere. He probably is not interested, but it would be a good combo.

[9/4/2012 8:17:28 PM] Director WVFoundations: I do not ant to be in the hills of West Virginia or Arkansas. No legal protection and not functional professionally. I have a draft set of Bi-Laws for a new Organization. I had my personal Attorney draft them

[9/4/2012 8:18:39 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Sounds great.

[9/4/2012 8:19:14 PM] Director WVFoundations: I can pull this off for $250K, building, FFE, and Start up costs

[9/4/2012 8:20:18 PM] Carolyn Yeager: That's a lot of money! What's FFE? You shouldn't move too fast.

[9/4/2012 8:21:07 PM] Director WVFoundations: Its not a lot when you figure that that is just flipping 3 properties. FF&E = Furnishing, Fixtures & Equipment, i.e. Servers, computers, etc. The IHR screwed up, when they were flush with csh, they should have bought a building, as a Tax exempt Org, they are exempt from Property Tax. Nevada would be a good State, great prices and not so hostile. California is great legally, but is 3rd World, very costly and full of enemies You have never sen SPLC or ADL bring a frivilious suit in Ca.

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Glenn Miller and "The Order"

Rodney Martin takes out after Glenn Miller and "can't believe" I would support such a traitor. He describes Miller as “a white person who made it a point on two separate occasions to testify on behalf of the Feds against our comrades." Such a person "hasn't any basis being held up as a model of leadership, but she has."

This is a good example of how Rodney shamefully TWISTS the reality in his speech. Glenn Miller did NOT "make it a point to testify!" He did not walk into a DA's office and say, I have evidence on these men and I am willing to give it." Miller was arrested himself and charged, based on the "confessions" of some members of The Order who ratted on him! He was facing a long prison term unless he gave state's evidence. What he gave did not make a difference in any sentences dished out to other members of The Order. If Rodney or others can prove it did, they should present it.

How familiar Rodney is with The Order and its mentality can be gauged by his calling Bob Mathews "Bob Miles" when speaking about this on his program. What a dork. This is what I mean when I say he jumps into everything as an authority while having little experience with it.

Eric Gliebe of the National Alliance

Rodney says I have written at least one post that he knows of defending Eric Giebe, and "blaming the people who opposed Gliebe (and subsequently left because of his poor leadership) and are trying to do something to turn it around."

This is another of Rodney's "twists" of what I really wrote. First, how can people who "left" be doing something to turn it around? They weren't! I did not defend Eric Gliebe and the only people I "blamed" were commenters at the Daily Stormer who wanted to punish Gliebe after the damage was done and those who walked away once Gliebe took over.

I simply asked them in my comment what they had done to prevent Gliebe's sale of some NA property? Were they NA members? No. Gliebe was Wm. Pierce's choice as successor. He can't be blamed 100% for not having the character or competence for such job to begin with. Will Williams did not want the job and would not have been good at it either without having his heart and soul in it. Gliebe at least was willing to try. And our boy Rodney was still on the Indian Reservation at that time! But he will join in being outraged about Gliebe without lifting a finger to do anything about it, and really not knowing anything about it.

It is pretty much a direct parallel with Mark Weber. Interesting that Rodney Martin blames Eric Gliebe for "destroying the National Alliance" but doesn't blame Mark Weber for destroying, after stealing, the Institute for Historical Review. Rodney has been working with Weber all along. Once again, Rodney is a hypocrite.

Rodney said: "How can you [Carolyn] be so ferocious [against] Mark Weber for his failings at IHR and give Eric Gliebe a pass?! I don't and didn't give Eric Gliebe a pass. Rod never quotes accurately.

Now Rodney wants to associate himself with William Pierce, even though he refuses the White Nationalist label. He also denied he was an "American Nationalist" even though he is chairman/founder of his latest creation, the American Nationalist Association. What does this mean if he says he is NOT an American Nationalist? 

Pictures of Wife

Rodney: "I actually had a picture of my wife on my site a short time ago. Many WN people have met my wife. I will post another picture of my wife and myself STANDING TOGETHER." This is not good enough; a wedding picture will work fine. But we have yet to see anything.

For what he said to me about his wife, I have to return to the skype record:

[2/20/2013 10:28:52 PM] Director WVFoundations: my wife and I were talking about our Grandparents the other night, , our respective German Grandparents and how they acted, yes they fought, but their was balance and above all deep respect, we kinda dropped our Scottish and Irish Grandparents :) Well, there you are. I had not really taken that in, obviously – and it was not an issue for me at the time. But really, Rodney is making too much over whether I knew he had Scottish grandparents - it's not like it's something I would lie about. It only became an issue for me more recently from hearing him constantly proclaim he is German but only mentioning one set of grandparents. And he says it right here -- he'd rather forget his Scottish side.

[2/20/2013 10:29:50 PM] Carolyn Yeager: Glad you have such a good wife. It would be nice to meet her sometime. Go ahead a get some sleep.

After the best ages for marriage came up ... 

[3/29/2013 11:06:34 AM] Director WVFoundations: I was 25, my wife was 21

[3/29/2013 11:07:33 AM] Carolyn Yeager: I'm happy to hear that about your marriage ages. And you still had 5 children.

[3/29/2013 11:08:24 AM] Director WVFoundations: and like I told him, we did not meet in a bar. My wife made an observation - she read that entire thread and observed that she thought all the guys talking there in favor of 14 year old sex and marriage are unmarried. I would like to run those ages upward so our women have a shot at an education if they so desire or if they choose, like my wife to be a wife and mother that is fine as well.

[3/29/2013 11:12:21 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Really, it has to be that way. Women aren't slaves. I figured you wife was reading it. Women are just as smart as men and can do many things, and still have children too.

[3/29/2013 11:13:08 AM] Director WVFoundations: I am not a paternalist.

[3/29/2013 11:16:21 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Well, I've got to get going, it's my swim day. Give my regards to your wife ... what is her name?

[3/29/2013 11:16:39 AM] Director WVFoundations: have a great day. Peggy Ann

[3/29/2013 11:16:57 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Margaret!!

[3/29/2013 11:17:13 AM] Director WVFoundations: no, acually Peggy

[3/29/2013 11:17:45 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Okay. Lots of Margarets are called Peggy. That is a name we don't see much anymore.

[3/29/2013 11:17:50 AM] Director WVFoundations: her Irish father liked Peggy

[3/29/2013 11:18:09 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Yes, it's a sweet name.

[3/29/2013 11:19:03 AM] Director WVFoundations: yes and so is she

[3/29/2013 11:19:27 AM] Carolyn Yeager: :)

[3/29/2013 11:19:40 AM] Director WVFoundations: her and I ---20 years

[3/29/2013 11:20:03 AM] Carolyn Yeager: I thought it was 25. My memory is not as good as it should be. [shows I'm not paying attention - his age was 25]

[3/29/2013 11:20:25 AM] Director WVFoundations: no, I was 25 when we go married [according to the newpaper article, Rodney married in 1995. If 25, he was born in 1970. It said he was at the time 37 (in 2007). It all adds up. So the "daily distorter" was correct about that. :-)]

[3/29/2013 11:20:51 AM] Carolyn Yeager: Well, it's a great story. I'm glad you're still such a young man.

[3/29/2013 11:21:18 AM] Director WVFoundations: I have a few more years at this

Twice in his radio podcast he called his wife a "female," an Aryan female. Sounds so strange to use that word for your wife. And I might add, I never wrote in a show announcement that his ancestry was German-Scottish or anything about his ancestry. Rodney is really full of himself in that he imagines everything he says is forever remembered by those hearing it.

The Card Room

Rodney has attempted to portray himself as a self-employed contractor who has various clients, with the Tule River Indians being just one of his clients. As though being TRC Administrator, as it is described in numerous newspaper articles, can be done on a consultant-client basis. In this vein, he even explains he took on the job even though he didn't like the people - still trying to present himself as pro-White back then. How nasty and hypocritical!

Rodney says the newspaper chronology about his Indian Affairs career is wrong. Says he left the “project” (as he calls it) long before Sam Cohen took over his job. Who was doing that job in the meantime? Exactly when did Rodney leave? If he were serious about getting all this cleared up, he would have told us, or he would tell us in a follow-up posting. He would write up the correct time-line for his career and major life moves. Since he hasn't, one has to think it's because he cannot do so without corroborating what the newspaper said. 

The Card Room project was started before I even arrived in the city, in town, in Porterville. Why? [Rodney doesn't answer why]. Because some of the the articles were written by the same individuals who had uh uh lied by omission in some of the articles, and thus the editor and the owners of the newspaper made the decision, because of the ethical issues involved with the misinformation in the articles, to remove, to remove them. And I'm not going to go in and talk about all of the issues that she talked about in the first hour of her show.” Probably because ...

The Porterville Recorder article about the “controversial card room license deal” written by Jenna Chandler on Feb. 26, 2010 [] found on page 9 of Results of "Rodney Martin" search, stated:

A sales agreement was struck in 2007 [when Rodney was administrator] that would have transferred the card room license of The Mint to the tribe for $800,000.


The Tribe filed the lawsuit in October 2008 [while Martin was administrator]


The Tribe’s main cash source, the Eagle Mountain Casino, is allowed to have card tables with gambling because it is on tribal land not covered by state gambling laws. But off-reservation card rooms in California are regulated by the state commission.


At the time the card room license sale was made public in November 2007, then Tribal Administrator Rodney Martin said the time frame of the sales contract with Podergois was “challenging,” but that he believed the Tribe would be able to complete the requirements or be granted an extension provided for in the sales agreement.


Documents filed in conjunction with the suit indicate that the Tribe attempted to negotiate an extension on its contract with David Gonzales [one of the owners of the card room] proposing a new purchase price of $1.2 million in early December 2007


Podergois made a statement: “I want to make one thing clear to the people of Porterville and to the Tule River Tribal Council: You have [falsely] insinuated that I have taken advantage of the tribe by selling it a card room license when I knew it couldn’t be done. In the initial meeting between me and Sam Cohen and Tom Stewart [Eagle Mountain Casino General Manager] when they first approached me and asked me if I wanted to sell my license, my first reply was to ask if this is something the Indians can do, and they told me it was their problem, to let them worry about it.”


On Oct. 8, 2008, the Tribe demanded its $800,000 back from Podergois, […] On Feb.5, 2008, Podergois' attorney Greg Chambers wrote the following in a letter:

My client has been requesting an answer/counteroffer from the Tribe for the last two months. Mr. Rodney Martin, Tribal Administrator assured my client that the Tribal Council would consider his request on Jan. 24, 2008 and again on Jan. 31, 2008, my client has still not received any form of communication,”

In early March (probably) Podergois wrote to the Tribes attorney, “If the tribe had acted in good faith over this period of time I would not have had to get these license renewals nor reopen the card room as the deal would have been completed by Dec. 31, 2007.”

Tribal Administrator Sam Cohen declined to comment [in 2010] for this story on behalf of the Tribe. Cohen worked for the tribe in another capacity prior to the card room deal and became Tribal Administrator late last year [late 2009] after former Tribal Administrator Rodney Martin left the Tribe’s employment. [Now he does not want to talk about it.]

Final remarks

I need to comment on one rather outrageous statement made by Rodney in his latest "revenge" posting. I realize that this kind of TWISTING, which is downright dishonesty/lying, will continue coming, but I will not continue answering it.  It is this:

Finally, Carolyn seems to think that the Reporter "planted" the Cherokee statement in the 2007 article as opposed to mistaking a smartass/joke made during an interview as fact which was her job and the Copy Editor's job to verify as well as many other errors in the article.

No, Carolyn doesn't think that and never said anything like that. This is one of the things Rodney said himself, an idea Rodney would now like you to think that I came up with, which is just another of his twisted attempts to distract you from seeing what he's trying to hide. I do not think that the reporter planted anything, but that the interview was written exactly as Rodney gave it. That is what I "think."

I also do not think that Rodney made a "smartass joke" about his wife during the interview, since that is just not something any self-respecting businessman would do during an interview. Just think, Rodney cries about "defending his wife's honor" when at the same time he wants us to believe he himself besmirched her honor with his "smartass joke." And at the same time, he is also proposing that the unnamed jewish copy editor added the "lie" about his wife to the story because he knew Rodney was pro-White. Only a stupid person would think other people would believe three contradictory things at once.

Rodney also doesn't know the difference between Palm Beach, West Palm Beach and Palm Beach County ... or he doesn't want his readers to know. However, I don't wish to give him any help. Let him stumble around on his own. And I suppose I had better state categorically right now that my former husband was NOT Jewish, not even "part." Rodney can offer all the innuendos he wants, but he can't turn a silk purse into a sow's ear, and he can't turn a Christian family into Jews. He will not come up with any proof of such assertions.

Rodney Martin is in over his head, thus making it worse for himself with every essay he writes and every radio show he will do. But believe me, I don't feel sorry for him.


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