Saturday Afternoon: How to regain our moral legitimacy

Rick

March 29, 2014 at 7:28 pm

Whites who go out of their way to defend Jews are basically looking out for their own individual interests by praising people who have the resources and power they themselves crave; it is comparable to a dog begging for table scraps at his master’s dinner. If whites are to gain moral legitimacy the self serving sycophantic behavior of Philo-Semitism should be exposed. There is also an underlying condescending nature about whites who feel a sense of moral superiority by sacrificing their racial identity and culture in order to “protect” blacks, Jews and other minorities; it is as though these people cannot defend themselves. On another note it should be stated that while race difference may not be as noticeable on an individual basis because of variations within populations, racial demographics influence the very fabric of society because certain characteristics and traits are more common in various populations as a whole.

Rick

March 29, 2014 at 7:38 pm

Interesting short article from “The Atlantic” entitled “Malcolm Gladwell’s Top 50 Philo-Semites”

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2008/11/malcolm-gladwel...

fnn

March 29, 2014 at 9:44 pm

We may need a false flag operation to help push the lunatic zeitgeist to the point of collapse. Start with the usual Tim Wise/Noel Ignatiev “white privilege” “white guilt” claptrap but sneakily end up with the idea of a maximum income for whites-say $100,000 per year. Sort of like Huey Long’s “Share Our Wealth,” but only whites are the targets for all the previously cited historical reasons. Today’s whites care about money and the status that goes with it more than anything.That proposal will get a rise out of them more than anything else. We’ll need racial classification boards (staffed entirely by AA non-whites)to determine who gets the shaft in a “fair” manner. So no exemptions for Jews.

weichseler

March 30, 2014 at 10:57 am

A good point there, fnn. Economic issues and status pretentions are where racially complacent Whites are vulnerable. Raid their pocketbooks and whatch them squack! The issue of financial dispossession is the only one that seems to move their self-centered asses off dead center.

blake121666

March 30, 2014 at 2:59 pm

You’ll probably delete this; but I’ve got to say that it is talk such as yours on this program that makes one want to kill Hitler over and over again.

Carolyn

March 30, 2014 at 5:30 pm

Wait a minute, blake. You previously wrote this on the Hitler Table Talk thread, so I guess you’re just a troll and I WILL delete your further posts.

I hate trolls!

Caravaggio

March 30, 2014 at 6:13 pm

The eastern slavs unfortunately have a bit of a complex though this isn’t/shouldn’t be a pan-slavic issue. It’s a European vs Eurasian divide and the Russian-slavs are just trying to galvanize their block using the standard evil west propaganda.

Also, most Euro’s don’t have a real problem admitting the superiority of Germans in most areas (not visual/dramatic arts) because we have our own elite abilities and histories. Slav self-esteem seems a little fragile in this regard.

Carolyn

March 30, 2014 at 8:39 pm

To Markus,

Thanks for calling in yesterday. You made a couple of statements I strongly disagree with.

What would National-Socialism be without Maria Orsic?

The Thule Society is the basis of National-Socialism.

I know you have an interest in the German “space travel” myths and other mystical occultish aspects of N-S, but the NSDAP had no connection to the Vril Society or the Thule, really. Nor did Hitler like any of it. So if some members looked into it, it was no more than that. I’m going to go into this tomorrow night and maybe you can call in, if you wish to.

Carolyn

March 30, 2014 at 10:39 pm

Caravaggio – I wonder where you get the idea that German’s are poor visual artists when there are so many fantastic painters, sculptors and draftsmen/etchers throughout German history. Hitler said that German theaters (dramatic arts) surpassed the English ones — though I cannot speak to this as I have no idea. I think he may have partially meant in making theater available to the people, not just the top hats.

Not that German visual art is SUPERIOR to others, but that it holds its own pretty well.

Caravaggio

March 31, 2014 at 8:14 am

Carolyn – Where did I say they were poor in that area? I implied that other Euro nations have their own fields where they surpass the Germans (in small ways) so there isn’t a grand inferiority complex like you’d see in other groups. I doubt Germans are poor in any area.

Carolyn

March 31, 2014 at 11:07 am

Okay, right.

Thinking about it, if one thinks in terms of Germanic visual art, we include the stupendous Dutch painters such as Rembrandt and Hals, the Flemish Peter Paul Rubens, and this is only the very top of the scale.

But in Germany alone, we have Albrecht Dürer who, in my opinion, was definitely one of the most brilliant painters who ever lived, and was a contemporary of Michaelangelo and Leonardo. However, he didn’t have any homosexual tendencies, lol. Germans invented the woodcut and engraving, and Dürer was an unequaled master of that too.

The incredible wood scupltures (greater than lifesize) of Veit Stoss (whom the Poles try to claim, but he was born in Germany; spoke German all his life; married a German woman Barbara Hertz) are unmatched, in my opinion, for naturalness and emotional expression (especially for that time). I saw many of them when I was in Germany and I’m very glad they’re there, being well cared for. Because of the imposed Slavic political correctness I’ve spoken about, Stoss is not even listed among German artists, but is classed as Polish because he created important works in Cracow (Cracow being a German city, however). Close to 50 years of age, in 1496, he returned to Nuremberg (where he had met and married his wife; they had 8 children) and remained there until his death in 1533. Seeing his gorgeous sculptures in the St. Lorenz Church there, and in other churches and museums too, was a real highlight of my trip.

After that come alterpiece painters Lucas Cranach and Mathias Grünewald, landscape painter Albrecht Altdorfer and then the great Hans Holbein the Elder, a pioneer in the transformation from Gothic to Renaissance.

While I’m at it, I must also mention the 19th century romantic painter, Caspar David Friedrich, whose style is so distinctive there is no one like him.

Bob in DC

March 31, 2014 at 12:13 pm

Please include the great revolutionary Leni Riefenstahl:

The Economist wrote that Triumph of the Will “sealed her reputation as the greatest female filmmaker of the 20th century”. ~ wikipedia

Carolyn

March 31, 2014 at 1:19 pm

Unquestionably she is, but I was clearly limiting my observation to painting and sculpture, and also not of the modern times.

Rick

March 31, 2014 at 2:07 pm

Germans have produced all kinds of great contemporary artists! German Expressionists such as Max Beckmann, Otto Dix, George Grosz, Egon Schiele (Austrian), Oskar Kokoschka (Austrian), and Käthe Kollwitz may not have appealed to Hitler but I think these artists had a very powerful sense of color and composition. I can understand that the socialistic naivete of Kollwitz’s work and the ugly distorted bodies of Beckmanns images are unappealing to many but you cannot deny the creativity and emotional impact of the work. None of these artists were Jewish and Jews should not be able to claim them as their own.

Carolyn

March 31, 2014 at 2:36 pm

Rick – as an artist and art student, I used to think these artists were great too, especially Beckmann ( I never could stand Egon Schiele, though). But these artists were promoted by jews, supported by jews, and they themselves were against the 3rd Reich’s antisemitism. By this time, Jews were in control of the international art market. So we don’t applaud them here, or include them because they are against the values we hold. They are like most of the Germans today.

It can be hard to give up these established names, but they are a part of the Jew world we have to reject.

Rick

March 31, 2014 at 2:41 pm

Interesting article on Kollwitz;

http://jewishcurrents.org/jewish-connections-kathe-kollwitz-24671

Rick

March 31, 2014 at 3:08 pm

You are correct about their values Carolyn; as an artist I too was influenced by Jewish sensibilities at any early stage. I only woke up out of the haze a few years ago after reading Kevin MacDonald’s “Separation and It’s Discontents”. Dealing with the propaganda of the holocaust narrative came even later and only then gradually as I listened to your show and watched videos such as “Last Days of the Big Lie”. Honestly back when I read MacDonald’s work one of the reasons I was able to absorb it was the fact that he didn’t refute the holocaust narrative. Although I grew up in Iowa I was subjected to a barrage of anti-Western propaganda including being assigned to watch the “Holocaust” and “Roots” miniseries in elementary school.

Paul Hickman

March 31, 2014 at 5:19 pm

Albrecht Dürer was the favorite artist of William Blake (an English prophet according to Church of England Bishops).

No one else has painted the human hand (a notoriously difficult task apparently) so beautifully, according to Blake.

William Blake fancied himself as a painter/engraver, but his poetry was much finer.

Thomas Hardy fancied himself as a poet, but his novels were much finer.

If you’ve never read the poetry of William Blake, you really should.

If you’ve never read a Thomas Hardy Novel, you really should.

Carolyn

March 31, 2014 at 7:24 pm

I can’t really like Kollwitz either because she’s so dreary. A joyless communist, always trying to make us feel guilty. Although there’s no doubt of her graphic power.

blake121666

April 1, 2014 at 12:06 am

You’re mistaken about me writing anything on any Hitler table talk thread. I don’t troll and in fact rarely comment. I think you have me mistaken for someone else. This is not trolling, I find your Hitler views more than questionable – but I’m not a white nationalist, just an American nationalist who is white. So I probably shouldn’t comment on your board because, in a way, I’m kind of not one of you. I would deport you as disloyal if I could.

Carolyn

April 1, 2014 at 12:43 am

Take a look here and see your comment, that you certainly did write. http://thewhitenetwork-archive.com/2014/03/27/german-bureaucracy-german-...

Why am I guilty of disloyalty? Disloyalty to the U.S.? What is an American Nationalist today, when White people are becoming a minority?

Something else … I just found some friendly emails from you from several months ago and further back. Why are you suddenly so hostile?

blake121666

April 1, 2014 at 5:37 pm

Oh, I thought you deleted that from this thread and didn’t realize I posted that in the wrong place, my mistake. I should lighten up with you and laugh your Hitler love off. I think you’ve been imbibing Hitler Kool-Aid a bit much and it has seemingly affected your sanity a bit. You’ll probably think the same in the not too distant future I would hope. At any rate, I have the highest respect for Germans, German nationalists, and don’t think as badly of Hitler as these posts come off. I of course am not a German nationalist though and would take offense at any German who would think that I would side with Germans over Americans (of any ethnicity). I hope any sane person would understand this not unreasonable reaction from me.