Saturday Afternoon: Interview with John de Nugent

Published by carolyn on Sat, 2012-11-10 12:00

Nov. 10, 2012

Long time White Nationalist John de Nugent is gearing up for a new drive to lead Whites in America in this post-election period. John, in his own words, aspires to be a philosopher-king, while, at the same time, he works at the grass-roots level in his local Pennsylvania area. John is good-natured about host Carolyn Yeager getting a bit tough in her questioning as she seeks for precise  answers to our present travails.  Subjects ranged from:

  • Is the German-American experience of the World Wars  now being repeated in general White American experience;
  • What to do about the “nobility and naivety” of the blue-eyed Aryan race;
  • What is required in a White leader;
  • Do we even need a single White leader who will simply be a target;
  • The Northwest Front vs. John’s Pennsylvania-Ohio-Kentucky-W. Virginia location for a White Safety Zone;
  • Chemtrails and other neuro-chemical methods of numbing and dumbing Whites;
  • The importance of religion for long-lasting group survival.


25 Responses

  1. Hadding

    November 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    I tried to find the alleged statement by Pat Buchanan on G. Gordon Liddy’s show. Nooj apparently did not hear the show himself but was reading the account that I found here:

    A Google search on “Venezuela without the oil” shows that it was also on Daily KOS but has apparently now been removed.

    I am suspicious of that alleged statement by Buchanan because it has him claiming that White people invented paper and algebra, which I think Buchanan knows were invented by Chinese and Arabs.

    I am thinking that it’s a hoax and that Daily KOS removed it when they found out.

  1. Carolyn

    November 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Good work, Hadding. I just now read it, even though John had sent it to me earlier (yes, from the daily currant) and it doesn’t sound like Buchanan at all.

  1. Mike

    November 10, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    What John de Nugent says about the demographics in the Northwest is not necessarily correct. Leaving aside all this NF/HC stuff. The demographics of the states he proposes above have just about the same White percentage as does the northwest. Except his ‘white zone’ is more ‘Union’ oriented; land locked; densely populated; has a growing nonwhite population; is closer to the levers of power (D.C and NY) and, according to their voting record, more ‘democratic/liberal’.

    Maybe I’m just trying to defend Idaho and the Northwest where I grew up, but demographics speak for themselves. That’s all.

  1. Carolyn

    November 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    It’s more about the type of White people for John, I think. He wrote in his blog that he’s not against the Northwest concept, but:

    I truly believe that West Coasters represent a strange out-selection of white genes, one that exemplifies worse than anywhere else the three huge genetic flaws that have hounded our race since the times of doomed Solutré:
    1) hyperindividualism
    2) hypertrust in what we’re told
    3) hypofertility (tiny families or no kids at all)
    With each passing day I become even more rock-solid in my confidence that the four-state region of PA, OH, WV and KY is where the white bastion will grow best.

    Maybe you should provide some of the demographics you’re speaking of.

  1. EditorNEMW

    November 11, 2012 at 12:24 am

    What about the Midwest, which is the breadbasket of the US as well as sitting over an ocean of oil,coal and is virtually all White right now and sparsely settled compared to the lakes region?

  1. Lurker

    November 11, 2012 at 12:42 am

    JdN – The Irish and Scots and even English can be pretty fond of a good punch up but it less of a Welsh trait.

    Irish-German empathy – not so sure about that. In WW1 there was no conscription in Ireland but there were plenty of volunteers for the British military. In WW2 Ireland wasnt even British anymore – there were still plenty of volunteers for the British military.

  1. Lurker

    November 11, 2012 at 3:39 am

    The alleged Buchanan interview with Liddy is a spoof. It never happened.

  1. Carolyn

    November 11, 2012 at 10:59 am

    To author of comment #7: We can only have one “Lurker” commenting here. So please explain why your email address and IP number are different from the established person named “Lurker.” BTW, I really dislike the name Lurker.

  1. Charles Ellis

    November 11, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    All of this debate about where the “White Homeland” should be is a waste of time.
    If you think your area is viable, then by all means, go for it. Even HAC points out that his novels are just that: fiction, and that the reality will be quite different.
    But I take issue with the trashing of the whole idea of a White Homeland gained through secession, with or without armed revolt. The proof of concept has been more than adequately demonstrated by the IRA.
    And as for J de N’s proposed Homeland, the Feds certainly are not going to nuke
    West Virginia since all of their underground bunkers are there.

  1. Hadding

    November 11, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    But I take issue with the trashing of the whole idea of a White Homeland gained through secession, with or without armed revolt. The proof of concept has been more than adequately demonstrated by the IRA.

    The situation of Ireland at the tail-end of World War I was very different from that of White people in the United States today. Most obviously, Ireland was an occupied foreign country with all the moral advantages for the secessionists, and moral disadvantages for the occupiers (probably enhanced by still-fresh WWI-propaganda, just as WWII propaganda played a role in the “Civil Rights movement”) that go with that, not a part of England trying to secede based on an idea. Secession of a part of England would have been opposed much more tenaciously. Furthermore, England in 1919-1921 was in bad shape economically and surely tired of war.

    I think secession here will be viable if and when the U.S. Government has essentially already ceased to exist. At that point having the best and strongest organization will be more important than location. But organization is not a contingency-plan for secession: we need organization now anyway to support our racial interests.

  1. Nemeth

    November 11, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    De Nugent sounds like a flake…. he’s all over the place and cant even stay on topic.

  1. Carolyn

    November 11, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    To be fair, John probably had his own idea of the topics he would have liked to discuss. I should not have titled it an “interview” since it started out as a three-way and then went to two and I was forcing the pace. John went along with everything and is a real gentleman. I appreciated his agreeable demeanor.

  1. Mike

    November 11, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Based on a selective, not a scientific, observation that might be true. There is no proof at all that ‘out-selected’ genes are present in a certain White population and not in another. Rather, one can find opposite White characteristics in both instances. His three ‘genetic flaws’ are essentially White flaws, present in the overwhelming majority of our population, especially Anglo-Germanic peoples.

    The demographics info. can be easily found on Wiki or US census online. Taking into account that Muslims and Jews are counted as White, look into the religious percentages of these groups and subtract them from the general White percentage. Each state is hovering around 77-88% White. Also, there is a larger percentage of Jews in the East, as expected.

  1. Rick1

    November 12, 2012 at 2:24 am

    Great interview. Are there a lot of White Nationalists who actually practice this Vedanta religion ?

    Reading the Wikipedia info on the religion, I can’t believe it is the earliest/original White religion. It might be, but there is just too much in dispute to come to that conclusion.

    I don’t think White people need any religion. Jewish atheists and religious jews fight side-by-side for their own people. Likewise, all other races.

    If you have children and the 14 words then you have an immortal soul.

    The hill to climb is not a religious but just getting people to accept that being ethnocentric is OK. The recent election has gone a long way to helping White people understand that all others are ethnocentric.

    n.b. changed Name to Rick1 from WhiteLurker to avoid confusion.

  1. Carolyn

    November 12, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Thanks Rick, for the name change. :-) I totally agree that our most important challenge is to get White people to accept OUR ethnocentrism as OK, and that this election has pointed out the need for that beautifully. I’ll be talking about this on tonight’s Heretics’ Hour.

  1. reg

    November 12, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I think you are wrong about Ireland gaining it’s independence. The Brits did not take withdrawal lightly. All their other “colonies” were looking on with interest. Their withdrawal from Southern Ireland was a major crack in the empire damm. Particularly since Ireland was considered part of Great Britain and the union had been in effect for 800 years. Large parts of Ireland were also heavily mixed with English blood. In particular the east coast and the north. Withdrawing was the last thing they wanted to do for a whole host of reasons.
    We did not kick the Brits out militarily. There were many reasons they left. One which may surprise you is the pressure you Americans put on them.
    As to the IRA campaign, you do of course know the Brits didn’t leave. They are still here. They didn’t leave because 54% of Northern Ireland(where I live) are people who are ethnically British. I really never could see them leaving. They were beaten into compromise. Once again they were not beaten militarily. They began to capitulate when the Provos attacked financial targets. .I. E. The financial district of London. Accountants lose wars. The people in power will never capitulate due to casualities. They won’t, cause they don’t care a jot about the people who lose their lives.

  1. John McGhee

    November 12, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    I think Carolyn should of held John’s feet to the fire a bit more on the issue of building a real movement infrastructure, like Dr. Pierce was trying to do. The people out there who profess to want to lead us are either quirky, or scam artists who just want to milk us for donations to live off.

    We need a leader who is normal and understands the need to build a infrastructure which normal White’s can join, feel connected, and recruit fellow White’s into it.

    Right now, since the passing of Dr. Pierce, our prospects of finding a person to move us forward in the real world, doesn’t look all that bright right now, sad to say.

  1. John de Nugent

    November 12, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Comment above by “Nemeth
    November 11, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    De Nugent sounds like a flake…. he’s all over the place and cant even stay on topic.”

    This kind of remark sounds like exactly what we read about here:

    Diary of an Israeli Shill

    “Denigrate for pay.”

  1. Lurker

    November 12, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Sorry Carolyn.’Lurker’ is an ugly word, its true. It was a joke name, as in ‘lurking troll’ yet Ive never been a troll. I started using it about 10 years ago, when started, I’m kind of stuck with it now.

  1. Hadding

    November 12, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    We did not kick the Brits out militarily. There were many reasons they left. One which may surprise you is the pressure you Americans put on them.

    Yo are refining rather than disputing my essential point, which is that the situation of Ireland 100 years ago was very different and held advantages that any secessionist movement in the USA today would not have.

  1. Lurker

    November 12, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    And thanks Carolyn and Rick for enforcing and respecting property rights on internet handles. :-)

  1. Carolyn

    November 13, 2012 at 1:19 am

    Well, Lurker, you are very welcome here and I hope you stick around. I wondered why you called yourself that, now I know.

  1. StoltSvensk

    November 13, 2012 at 9:27 am

    It is interesting how John de Nugent still keeps talking about his frm assistant Henrik Holappa. De Nugent is known for not checking the facts. Just a couple of weeks ago Mr. De Nugent was posting on his website how Henrik Holappa was arrested in Norway for illegal weapons. That wasn’t and isn’t true. De Nugent also claimed in his post on the website that he took responsibility for Henrik’s supposed arrest in Norway. He wrote that Henrik was arrested in Norway because he made it to happen. Here is the quote by JdN: “I caused him some very serious legal trouble with the Finnish government.” Mr. De Nugent didn’t even bother to correct himself that the news about Henrik’s arrest were completely false. Whether he De Nugent made up the news about Henrik himself or he believes absolutely everything what people tell him which explains why he is not able to evaluate the facts and fictions correctly… That also explains why he gave false quotations even in this interview. Hopefully listeners do realize that often De Nugent doesn’t have at all the facts straight.

  1.  Lurker

    November 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Thanks Carolyn and I’ll be sticking around.

  1.  Rolf Gunnar Rolfsson

    November 19, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    The path of the warrior leads to the edge of the world, and further beyond the lion takes the heart. The Finnish warrior, Sven Duva, fights like a lion. C.S. Lewis describes the lion untamed. Greatness in action is divinity in practice. Such is the nature of things. John de Nugent has our support for the American presidency.

Surely I cant be the first commenter to think I may have solved the mystery of where John's donations disappeared to and why his mail was arriving in the wrong order and already opened?