Saturday Afternoon: Should questioning motives and methods be called "infighting?"

Published by carolyn on Sat, 2013-02-02 12:41

Feb. 2, 2013

Carolyn does what she’s good at: Criticism of high-profile members of our “truth community,” some of whom are known as “pro-White” or “White identity” and some who are not.  This is so difficult to put into words, it’s best to go straight to the bullets:

  • The question of leadership comes up, and along with that – money;
  • Disappointment with David Duke and Ingrid Zundel for their association with Jeff Rense, Gordon Duff and others;
  • ‘Gordo’ Duff’s attempts to get representatives from all sides, including revisionists like Zundel and White nationalists like Duke, on his “internationalist” VT website;
  • Questioning Duke’s radio program on Dec. 13 treating Duff as a great friend;
  • Ingrid Zundel’s admission of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, several times over, in legal fees for Ernst – saying they can raise any amount they want;
  • Internationalist vs nationalists: never the twain shall meet;
  • Nationalism is always antisemitic and about racial purity – can’t be otherwise.

Phone call from Ray in Texas on nationalism.

    Pictured: David Duke on cover of Time Magazine, May 9, 2005.


    11 Responses

    1. Carl

      February 2, 2013 at 6:35 pm

      I don’t consider it infighting to identify serious lacunae. Naming the Jew, correcting the historical record, and nationalism are all essential. Collecting a lot of money for doing part of that, and riding the inertia, isn’t enough.

      Students are a major untapped resource. There really is no future anyway. They are paying more to get a degree that is worth less and less. They should question the Holocaust in their term papers. If they suffer serious adverse consequences they can sue, because the facts are on our side. And they should start ad hoc White-only groups, and then demand meeting places. They should chain themselves to radiators. They’ll do that to save a tree (and why not!?), so how about to save the tribe? Many Whites simply are not conscious of themselves as a race. But they still care about facts. And the fact is, there was no Holocaust.

      A handful of students who make it through the furnace of that experience will be leaders, well-grounded in the basics.

      By the way, when students forming White-only groups find themselves beset by every variety of two-legger, they should point out that the siege amounts to “unwanted racial attention”.

    1. Edward Allen

      February 3, 2013 at 12:27 am

      “Our destiny does not weaken, nor can it be broken, our greatness, our
      strength, all falls upon us, the shoulders of the posterity of giants.” – Edward Allen (NewJerseyMilitia) – White Pride Worldwide with sincere humility, forever -

    1. Nemeth

      February 3, 2013 at 9:31 am

      Duke fawns over Duff and co because he is pathetically grateful for any Jew that agreees with him. Duff of course knows this and plays him like a fiddle. He must be laughing his socks off at how gullable “Jew smart” Duke really is.

    1. Alexander from Flanders

      February 4, 2013 at 9:19 pm

      No one should be above (some healthy) critique. Not even the people who have been active for many decades, and have done many good things in the past. As long as the criticism does not turn into an insane ego war. I really hate that.

      Personally I like David Duke. He has done many good things. I don’t agree with everything he does, but I still like him.

      I have to say that I don’t know much of anything about that Gordon Duff guy. He sounds pretty wierd. Kinda strange that Duke would associate with him. It undermines his credibility. I guess it’s just politics.

    1. John McGhee

      February 5, 2013 at 9:18 am

      I think people start out with noble thoughts and efforts, but then get corrupted with raising money for themselves. If you wish to donate, only donate to people who are productive and are trying to move the “movement” along. Willis Carto is productive, brings out a weekly newspaper and bi monthly magazine. He prints and republishes books. He is worthy of support because it is shown he is productive.

      When Dr. Pierce was alive, he was worthy of support because he was productive. He brought out two magazines, he published the members bulletin, he published and republished important books which moved the movement along.

      Duke is only interested in Duke and everybody knows it. Ingrid is only interested in Ernst. Weber lives off the good works of others and has done so now for many years.

      An old saying, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice…

    1. margel

      February 5, 2013 at 10:15 am

      If you travel to Europe, you can find yourself in jail quickly if you deny the Holocaust! Those are the laws there and, it does NOT matter that you are right! Now, do you want to get in jail for this issue? Once you are in jail, you are out for that time so what good does it make?
      Sorry but I do not think you understand the issue at large… If you plan to travel to Europe, you have to avoid the issue of Holocaust! It is bad but, do you want to sit in jail for 5 years?



    1. Carl

      February 5, 2013 at 10:37 pm

      Europeans are going to have to be more aggressive about civil disobedience. The Holocaust simply has to be cast aside, as a grotesque lie and distortion. What would be effective is to organize groups of students by the hundred or so, to deny the Holocaust in succession, one group at a time. What are they going to do, stuff the jail with all their nice White students? If this seems like a bad idea, consider what is to come: I have read that there are plans to import a million Asians per year into Europe. To say nothing of Muslims and Negroes. How is any of that sustainable?

    1. Carolyn

      February 5, 2013 at 11:46 pm

      When are some of you going to stop telling other people what to do (especially European students, for god’s sake) and just do something yourself? Do you think Europeans are listening to you? It’s all so pointless.

    1. Carl

      February 6, 2013 at 10:26 am

      Thank you, Carolyn, for being a remarkably productive researcher and kicker of butts. I would like to observe that civil disobedience is just about the easiest thing in the world, because there are almost never any serious consequences. There is some inconvenience and perhaps minor injuries. But the inflow of nonwhites into Europe make these inevitable anyway. Furthermore with civil disobedience, there is a feeling of being right, and the ownership of one’s destiny.

      I recommend 100 students go every Monday to Nuremberg and publicly deny the Holocaust. They can do it flash mob style. Soon it will be quite hopeless to arrest and jail them all. Seeing the commitment of students might bring out the oldsters on whom you stake your hopes.

      Undermining the Holocaust is absolutely the most efficient and potent way to solve all our problems. No sane White person is happy to see ever-growing swaths of nonwhites swarming all over our cities and suburbs. But the Holocaust is dangled over our heads at every turn. When it stops being an issue, it will be easier to talk as a race, and, easier to observe the extent to which our communications are controlled, not just in the news but in all publishing including scholastic.

      The demonstrators need to be creative, funny, and try different things. And Europe is ground zero. The students have everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

      And those few who are most responsible for banishing this hobgoblin will go down as heroes of their people, forever.

    1. Carolyn

      February 6, 2013 at 12:11 pm

      :-) Well, I hope you can get this message to them. And, how about setting that up where you live? Are there some schools near you?

    1. Carl

      February 6, 2013 at 5:38 pm

      It’s not illegal here. It wouldn’t be civil disobedience.

      But one problem I thought of with this idea is that students don’t feel oppressed by the Holocaust. So really we’re in an educational phase, and we have to hope that our educational phase will take less time than the nonwhites’ breeding phases.