The Heretics' Hour: David Colestein emerges, and when did revisionists become "deniers?"
May 6, 2013
David Cole (pictured), the much admired holocaust revisionist of the 90's, has re-emerged at age 44 as David A. Stein, a Republican Party activist and producer of mainstream holocaust videos. Carolyn looks at what is known so far:
- He didn't come forth voluntarily but was "outed" by a female in whom he had confided;
- Says he will not try to continue as David Stein, the Republican Party "Animal";
- His participation with the Tinbergen film production company with partner Caleb Tinbergen;
- Jewish blogger Eric Golub shows how angry and punishing Jews can be;
- Colestein's self-invented biography as David Abravanel Stein;
- Carolyn thinks Colestein will never be able to leave his Jewish community;
- David Irving's lawsuit against Deborah Lipstadt turned Revisionists into "Deniers";'
- Fredrick Toben calls in and talks about the ramifications of the "gassing" controversy and the Kriege report;
- Charles Krafft calls in and wants to know about the 2006 Tehran Conference papers.
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Kathrine
May 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm
We must remember that the man got abused. His family got threatened. This kind of experience changes the mind and one becomes confused. Perhaps he wanted to please the abuser as a form of “Stockholm Syndrome.” You see the German Nation too suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome, the adoration of the abuser and killer of the innocent ancestors.
In a way, it is wise to have compassion with him. We don’t know how psychology works.
I sure cannot help but wonder how he got always relatively important job. It is so difficult for people to make a living in the US and I wonder, perhaps other Jews helped him. I wonder how he did kick start his carrier.
At a noteL I only recently discovered what they have done to Germans after the war.
People don’t understand that the winners killed more German after the war than during the war. The crime cost more than 15 million people’s life. German girls got crucified at garage doors and gang-raped and afterwards begged the Wermacht soldiers who found her to kill her.
the feminists say nothing about the fact that the greatest rape party ever was against German women. Pregnant ladies got their belly opened by knife and the baby killed in front of father and mother who then got shot. Many thousands of Germans got crucified at doors and kitchen tables. They nailed the tongue to the table.
It seems weird to me that these victims can not be honored and loved but perhaps non exiting Jewish victims are having the most bombastic morbid death cult temples which ever existed on this planet. One thing is sure, if the Germans could have done this crime of killing 6 millions Jews, there would have been nobody left today to claim money.
David Cole tried to live an honest life and got punished. Every human being has the right to question everything under the sky. Logic and reason, evidence and truth is more important than a morbid emotionality which is sign and symptoms for the “lack of love for humanity as a whole.”
If 6 million Jews died,
15 Million Germans died
66+ Russians died
I wonder, why don’t all people have bombastic memorials? Aren’t all people equally precious and worthy?
It is not possible to learn morals and ethics from people who do not love humanity as a whole, which of course includes the love for one’s tribe, nation, culture, language.
I wonder, f Jews as a group would have loved humanity as a whole – how many wars could have been avoided? they always talk about antisemitism but it feels more like forcing the raped humanity to love the rapist. There is no logic in asking us to love those forces which take our life force away. Yet, it is our choice to draw boundaries and not make debt.
Coming back to David Cole – we still must be patient with him. He is a sensitive and intelligent man… and his twisted ways are possibly the result of “Stockholm Syndrome.”
His work and questioning is valid.
Here a video in German which is very painful. So many say the Germans deserved this fate. It is not true. Nobody deserves this fate – no matter what. People identify with the victim because they feel “This could have happened t me.” It is understandable. yet, they fail to realize that we swim historically in a see of lies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nP9ay0Y72pY
Peace to the liars and the over emotional who become violence due to teachings they have nothing to do with their own life today, Reacting merely to words in abusive ways is a state of mind which I consider “not very evolved.”
Peace also do David Cole. I wish for him to find true friends who unconditionally accept him.
Thank you, for educating us about the war. There is much to learn for all of us to get a balanced picture.
Yours,
Kathrine
Burt
May 7, 2013 at 5:53 pm
As Tan has reminded us often, Jews always focus on what is best for the Jews. Maybe Cole initially imagined that an exposé about the Holocaust would be best for the Jews.
The early work could also be explained by a belief that rubbing “gentile” noses in Jewish perfidy would advance the Jewish cause.
Either way, subsequent lecturing, hectoring, or proposed vivisection, pointed him toward other outlets affording the same benefits, such as being a Republican. The other Jews probably forgave him easily enough, because their control of media is such that damage from his early work can be shaped and contained, and even used to advantage.
Carolyn
May 8, 2013 at 12:56 am
Thanks for that video link, Kathrine. It’s outstanding imagery.
P
May 8, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Hi Carolyn,
Regarding Colestein – biological determinism for the win.
Is [email protected] your main email contact? I’ve sent you a few about a story.
Carolyn
May 8, 2013 at 11:42 pm
P – Yes, I got them, thanks, but it’s better to send to [email protected].
Nemeth
May 9, 2013 at 6:57 pm
I think one can acknowledge the work that Cole did without feeling the need to fawn over him. Kinda funny that he engaged in jewish deceptive behavior to get his interview with Dr. Piper, kippah on head, pretending to be devout. He talks about it in his chat with Ernst Zundel. By the way Eric Golub does use the term “revisionism” in his piece about Cole.
Markus
May 10, 2013 at 1:43 am
The damage is done. David Cole did his service to humanity with his outstanding documentary. Even if he is now nothing more than an empty shell, his video is the most convincing piece of all revisionist works from which one will study further on. It breaks the emotional spell.
Cole now on Treblinka, I heard Mark Weber saying something like that, as well. Weber said in a TV interview (on Tehran I believe) that he believes now in Treblinka were gassings. Could they be in contact?
travis
May 10, 2013 at 2:37 am
Eric Gould: “I remain as proud to be associated with the Republican Party Animals as I am to be a member of the Jewish faith. It is David Cole’s own fault that he betrayed both of those great gifts bestowed upon him.”
Hahahhahahaha!
Carolyn
May 10, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Markus and Nemeth – I agree David Cole did great work, and we don’t know yet what he will eventually do. He could talk to Jews in a tough way without appearing to be uncomfortable about it, like, say, Mark Weber, clearly was and is. Cole said he didn’t have the facility with language then that he does now, he was just a kid — well, what a kid! I recently saw part of his video with Ernst Zundel at Auschwitz, and he comes across as totally honest, and knows what he’s talking about too. Much better than Zundel. We could call what Cole has “jewish chutzpah”; I think we could use some of that chutzpah ourselves in this holohoax mess.
If we care about exposing this holo fraud most of all (above all else), we have to hope Colestein will get back into it. But it’s doubtful. The Jews will go after him far worse than any “Gentile.” He’s in kind of a hopeless situation.
Franklin Ryckaert
May 10, 2013 at 5:47 pm
David Cole is according to Jewish law a “rodef” (a Jew who betrays his fellow Jews to the Gentiles) and deserves the death penalty for it. The death threats he got from the Jewish Defense League that made him recant were entirely in accordance with Jewish laW. It doesn’t matter whether the Jews concerned are really guilty or not, Jews should cover for each other no matter what (see the behavior of the Jews in the cases of Leo Frank and Jonathan Pollard, the whole Jewish community supported them). Such are the “morals” of this criminal tribe.
John McGhee
May 20, 2013 at 1:26 am
15-year-old girl learns the truth about the holohoax, submits a report and gets an A.
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1552935#post1552935