The Heretics' Hour: The enemy within or just another passing sideshow?

Markus

March 11, 2014 at 3:45 am

It’s enough, IMO, Carolyn. Nobody is perfect, and Rodney sure isn’t either.

Is this really worth your time one show after another?

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 5:21 am

Carolyn. I hope you did not take my call in the wrong way. I just think that we should all try to work more together as a team, rather than make personal attacks on fellow White Nationalists. Nobody is perfect, and we all have our flaws. You have an excellent show, Carolyn. I have learned a lot from listening to you and your excellent guests. I REALLY think that we should focus more on getting the TRUTH out regarding the Jews and their lies, rather than on the perceived personal failings of our comrades in the Struggle. Thank you for all the good work you are doing, Carolyn.

katana

March 11, 2014 at 9:20 am

Carolyn, at the end you requested feedback on whether you talking about Rodney Martin is a big waste of time or not, while also addressing the issue about the truth of what you say and Martin’s untruths about you.

Frankly, I think you have spent enough time on Martin, regardless of the truths involved. Even if we accept that he’s a narcissistic self promoter, a poor writer, who hides and lies about his past and so on, at the end of the day, after all the “he said, she said” stuff, what of it? I don’t see that he is worth any more of your and your listeners’ time.

When you start being publicly critical of someone and they start fighting back, things can easily spiral out of control and start to loom much larger in apparent importance than a more detached viewpoint would suggest.

You’ve made your point very throughly and well. And meanwhile there are much bigger fish waiting for their turn to be fried.

Dietlef Busch

March 11, 2014 at 10:08 am

Ahahaha had not laughed so much for quite some time Carolyn

And I quote the “famous” “historian”:-

“He is especially respected by many Germans, around the globe who view him as an advocate for German History and traditions” (Who?)

“Rodney Martin is a National Treasure [....]” (Indians, Latino’s?)

This, one I could not stop (still am laughing…)

“Martin also enjoys flying, skydiving, shooting, boxing, hunting, and deep sea fishing….”

Says it all

ahahaha… Thank you Carolyn for a good chuckle!

Dietlef Busch

March 11, 2014 at 10:43 am

And as for you “wasting time”, personally I do not think so – it is exactly these type of people that have not remained consistent with their “messages” that has been causing problems. They are like grasshoppers, jumping from one opportunity to the other and in the process, leaves a once “feeding wheat-field” (bread of a nation) destroyed in its wake.

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” – Marcus Tullius Cicero

The Enemy Within

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 10:58 am

Carolyn, when it comes to holocaust revisionism, nobody beats you in telling the TRUTH. Rodney Martin is bringing out different aspects of the Jewish question. He is very knowledgeable regarding the history of the Third Reich. I think that we should all refrain from using ad hominem arguments and confining our criticism to the theories of our White Nationalist brothers and sisters, That would be FAR more productive than constantly fighting among ourselves over superficial points.

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 11:28 am

Thanks Jim, for writing. And Markus and katana too. No, I did not take your call in a bad way, Jim. I appreciated it. What happened was an unfortunate screw-up that can occur because I cannot hear myself and I’m so conditioned to judge my reality by visual-audio clues that I don’t do a good job of checking the data that is available to me. Like a pilot who flies by sight rather than by his instruments. I was more concerned with you having hung up that anything else. I was talking away the whole time, and looking in the wrong place for the problem.

I can tell you, even without the “advice,” that I am feeling very complete about this, I think I have covered it thoroughly now and not left any unattended threads hanging, and I do feel I can now sit back with a sense of ease and watch what becomes of the ANA-ANN, let the results be whatever they are.

But Jim, I cannot agree with how you view all this. These are empty words to say “Let’s try to work together as a team.” Do you work together with maggots, parasites and deadly bacteria? Do you consider telling Jewish-style lies just a minor imperfection that can be overlooked? How do you judge someone to be a “comrade in the Struggle?” All these are serious questions that have to do with our fighting fitness – the biggest problem we have may be that we are so easily deluded. And of course, our famous “tolerance.”

Let me please remind you that when the two personal opinion items by Rodney Martin in the Porterville Recorder were revealed, Rodney, rather than explaining himself on the basis that he had not quite ‘seen the light’ at that time (2007), instead chose to make the ridiculous claim that “an unknown enemy” wrote it and put Rodney’s name on it. What does this remind you of? How about Giles Bernheim, the Chief Rabbi of France, who was described in the mainstream media as making “childish” denials that could not be maintained in the face of the evidence. I meant to point out the similarity between Rabbi Bernheim falsely claiming to have won a prestigious academic award to Rodney Martin claiming to be a “Dr.” on his Metapedia page (see page history) by the simple act of typing that short prefix there himself. Not only has Rodney not commented on it, but the Metapedia editor who added it did not comment in the discussion either. He-They were caught red-handed.

From all this, it doesn’t appear that White Nationalists are ready to govern themselves.

Paul Hickman

March 11, 2014 at 11:49 am

jimhardpeka

It would be nice if we could ‘all work together’ but then again we live in the real world.

Rodney Martin’s fake fb account. This is where he attacks people but doesn’t have the courage to put his name to it.

https://www.facebook.com/larry.simes.9?fref=ts

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 12:06 pm

Dietlef – You see it the way I do. Rodney’s “introduction of himself” on the Board of Directors page is just too many laughs and too revealing not to bring it to people’s attention. I can’t understand those who think we should take this man seriously. But some do. The fun and games will probably continue, but I really do feel that I’ve said all I have to say. It will just be more of the same from here on. Next week: Bonhoeffer, Niemoeller and Ed Milliband … maybe a few others.

Dissent

March 11, 2014 at 1:37 pm

As new info comes out, I think Carolyn should do more shows on it. I absolutely think it is appropriate that she continues to discuss the ANA and their activities. They want us to send them money and want to be our leaders so they are open for criticism. I have really liked these shows and it makes me laugh that anyone could continue to be fooled by these clowns but unfortunately are which makes it even more important to talk about it.

“Martin also enjoys flying, skydiving, shooting, boxing, hunting, and deep sea fishing….”

He forgot “moonlit walks on the beach.”

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 2:06 pm

Carolyn. I have always had a lot of respect for you and I love you as an Aryan Sister, but I also love Rodney as an Aryan Brother. We ALL have our faults, for God’s sake. Let’s stop attacking our brothers and sisters. WE ARE ONE ARYAN FAMILY. Constant squabbling amongst ourselves is EXACTLY what our enemies want.

Markus

March 11, 2014 at 2:25 pm

Dietlef and Carolyn,

I think it is safe to say that Rodney is partially dyslexic. So was my grandfather. He was a volunteer for the German Navy and defended the Finland-Front from the Soviets in the Baltic Sea. He later became a successful engineer and employed hundreds of people. (His imagination and ability to build technology balanced his writing weaknesses).

Making fun of dyslexia over and over again is immature.

Dietlef Busch

March 11, 2014 at 3:38 pm

Yes, I do I tried to count the emphasizes of him using “German” and every time I start, I burst out laughing again… “an advocate for German {…} traditions”, “Martin lived a Wagnerian life {……] German Nordic Traditions”, “German firearms” “German wine and an occasional fine cigar (from Cuba?)”…. ahahahahaha!

… Yes, that show would be interesting to listen to, old “Red Ed” as he is called by those who know more about him – I am looking forward to it.

Dietlef Busch

March 11, 2014 at 4:19 pm

Excuse me Markus, do you actually know what being dyslexic is?

Dyslexia
Dyslexic words

I had a friend at university, who is one, he turned out to be an excellent architect, however please do not confuse that with compulsive lying and imagination, referred to a Pseudologia fantastica

Rick

March 11, 2014 at 4:24 pm

Unfortunately we need to govern ourselves. While whites are very independent and individualistic as a people the dark side of this individualism is narcissism and psychopathology when taken to the extreme. If someone is going to come out as a leader and representative of white people they need to have an impeccable character and bonafide credentials. Do charlatans like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make their fellow African Americans look good? We don’t need people hijacking and compromising our cause for their own selfish reasons. With that being said however we don’t have to throw out the baby with the bathwater; with a little critical introspection hopefully Rodney and his team can clean up their act and be the better for it. All it takes is a little humility.

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 4:29 pm

Jim, I know how sincere you are. I respect you very much for the speaking out you do, the calling you do into programs making very good points. I’m really sorry we didn’t get to complete our call last night. It was my fault although altogether unintended. But I cannot agree that Rodney is “very knowledgeable regarding the history of the Third Reich.” He has used Deanna Spingola’s show to convince people of that, by preaching on very simple topics and doing a lot of repeating. If he’s asked something off the topic he’s prepared, he is lost … I’ve heard it happen often enough. Not that he doesn’t know more than the average person, that’s not difficult, but not expert at all. In my opinion, without knowing the German language and without time spent there, perhaps studying, one cannot be considered very knowledgeable, and that includes me. What one can do is read about it, accept or not accept what you’ve read, and parrot it.

What Rodney does that people like, is defend and promote the Third Reich. He’s the one with the obsession, if you like. I have heard him go overboard with defending, denying that things happened that actually did happen, or vice versa. He does have some good N-S material archived on his website; I noticed that. He does try to collect some things, but then he brags about it too much. He can’t just talk about it in a normal way; he has to be promoting himself and inserting himself into it all the time. I find that intolerable.

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 4:30 pm

I really do not think that anyone has any cause to attack Rodney Martin. In my opinion, he is one of the most fearless and intelligent comrades that we have in the White Nationalist movement. There is an old saying that people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Let’s stop all this bickering an act like REAL ARYANS.

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 4:34 pm

C’mon Carolyn, you and Rodney need to bury the hatchet. You are BOTH great people and you BOTH are performing a valuable service. At the end of the day, we will all hang together or we will all hang separately. LONG LIVE ARYAN UNITY!!! 14/88

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 4:41 pm

Markus,
I know the kind of people you’re talking about. But you can’t tell us that we’re making fun of dyslexia over and over again, based on your imaginary idea that Rodney was like your grandfather. Rodney’s problem is that he’s in a hurry and doesn’t take the time to edit his writing. When he was Administrator of the Tribe he had a secretary, and maybe at other times also. Rodney is not a technically or mechanically proficient person; he doesn’t tinker with automobiles in his spare time, but listens to “classical music” and looks at his rare book collection.

And don’t we deserve to laugh once in awhile? I have to say, it really feels good and I deserve it!

Dissent

March 11, 2014 at 5:14 pm

jimhardpeka:

Talk about a “emotionally over charged simplification.” You’re going to sit there and tell me that we all need to get along? You can’t be serious.

Also, let me remind you of something that you may or may not know. Those ANA guys? They are the biggest bunch of nasty people you can imagine. Ask them a question that they will not answer and see the kind of mud they sling!

Th whole org is based around kissing Rodney’s ass. Nothing more is required and that includes Rodney’s so-called principles. If you smooch hard and long enough you can win yourself some kind of executive title at the ANA. Ask the great vanity press pseudo-intellectual Christopher “John” Borsella and he will tell you all about it.

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 5:14 pm

You are right, Carolyn. We DO deserve to laugh once in awhile. Sometimes I think that we White Nationalists take ourselves too seriously. Of course, telling the TRUTH in a World of Jewish Lies is a serious business, but we DO need to lighten up a little bit. And you DO deserve to laugh, Carolyn. ” A little lightness now and then is relished by the best of men”—and women too.

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 7:59 pm

Dissent – I will second that. If anyone has doubts, just listen to the first 10 min. or so of C. Borsella’s radio program from yesterday. He’s talking about “miss ka-ha-ne”, by whom he means me, Carolyn. And Margaret Huffstickler as “stuffstickler.” He can’t talk about anything straight on, and he’s also NOT telling his past like it is. He only left the UN in 2009, he was still writing on and hosting anti-racist forums in 2006! Plus I did not get any of my information about him from Margaret Huffstickler, not at all; he is making assumptions. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/american-nationalist-network/2014/03/11/the-imperian-mandate

BTW, Christogianni has deleted his Mediterranean forum at Wiser.org which was linked to at that Feb. 15th M. Huffstickler program. He is busy removing what he can.

Neither Margie or I ever said we were WN from birth – just the opposite. But Jim, please give me your opinion of this. Please notice that I have never come up with insulting “nicknames” for Rod and Chris as they do regularly for me and others they attack. Dissent has got it exactly right – they are mud-slingers.

 Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 8:17 pm

Dietlef – these pages were interesting. I understand now that Rodney is not a pathological liar, which is defined as lying with no particular gain to be had from it.

Rodney lies to gain something from it — to avoid having to tell the truth or to cover up for previous lies. So he has purpose in his lying. Yet there is an element of the fantastic in that he thinks people will believe him. Very much like that Congressman Wiener, yes? It seems to me he’s like a child lying because the child doesn’t understand how transparent he is to adults. Is Rodney in ‘arrested development’ because of his unusual early family life?

 Dietlef Busch

March 11, 2014 at 9:47 pm

“The stories told tend toward presenting the liar favorably. The liar “decorates their own person”[5] by telling stories that present them as the hero or the victim. For example, the person might be presented as being fantastically brave, knowing or being related to many famous people, or claiming they earn more income than they do.” …. No? ahahaha “If the disease continues to progress, lying could become so severe as to cause legal problems, including but not limited to fraud”….

Seems more likely and IMO those two have a lot to hide – as Cristioganni, he can try and cover his tracks, there’s a way to bypass those (which I have secured), he has some explaining to do with his books here & Six Trotskyite Lies Every Would-Be Radical Should Know

As you have rightly pointed out Carolyn, they started with “mud slinging” and I would like to know from jimhardpeka, why not stand up against these guys that have called Carolyn a “lesbian” (one show he had some sick music on with some sort of lyrics in the line of “lesbian seeker”), also on the Larry Slimes profile, pornographic “lesbian images”, implying she is a “Jew” etc. IF, there is some “hatchets” to be “buried”, it should not be coming from Carolyn. These men who want to be “leaders” should officially be condemned publicly for such behaviour, not applauded!

…. any case, I might up take some skydiving this summer ahahaha!

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 10:01 pm

Carolyn, I really don’t want to have to choose sides in this thing. There is plenty of mud slinging going on with both sides. I hate to repeat a well worn phrase from Rodney King, but CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? There are plenty of ways in which we White Nationalists can make our own individual contributions to our Cause. To paraphrase Chairman Mao; “LET A THOUSAND ARYAN IDEAS BLOOM”. The time that we are wasting attacking our brothers and sisters in the Cause could be better spent in exposing the BIG LIES of our Eternal Enemy. If anyone who claims to be a White Nationalist is doing the wrong thing, they will eventually be found out. Let’s work on keeping our own house in order and let the chips fall where they may.

Dietlef Busch

March 11, 2014 at 10:20 pm

@ jimhardpeka “Chairman Mao”? What school of Marxism did you all come creeping out of?

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 10:29 pm

Dietlef Busch, I don’t really know enough about this feud to rationally take a position one way or the other. I only know that nobody is perfect and that we all have our faults and weaknesses. I like BOTH Carolyn and Rodney. Why do I have to be forced to choose sides? There is far too much slander and gossip in our Movement. Why don’t we just try to emphasize the POSITIVE instead of always going for the juggler vein?

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 11:17 pm

Jim, I would like you to back that up with examples of me slinging mud. I maintain that I have presented material from the internet with Martin’s and Borsella’s name on it. Would you say that men should not be asked to take responsibility for what they put their name to?

They have presented nothing with my name on it, have they? They have talked about documents showing this and that about my former husband, but nothing is presented, is it? There is not one real thing they have come up with.

Is it because I have said CJB is a homosexual? He has not denied it. The ANA rules state: An Aryan who is engaged in active sexual perversion is excluded from consideration altogether ; it may be that he claims to not be active. I suspect you don’t care about that either. But Chairman Martin should care.

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 11:36 pm

CJB a homosexual? That is ridiculous, Carolyn. How do you figure that he is a homo? I am POSITIVE that he is a normal heterosexual man. I do not believe that ANY active homosexual should have ANY active participation in a leadership position. CJB is a highly intelligent guy. He wrote a brilliant book that I think stands as a classic work in the `White Nationalist Movement. I respect your opinions very much, Carolyn, but to say that CJB is a queer is a little much.

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 11:40 pm

Yes! Those last two book were published in 2009. So when did he change his views? In 2011 he had been converted to the White Imperium.

jimhardpeka

March 11, 2014 at 11:46 pm

I don’t get it, Carolyn. In 2011 he had been converted to the White Imperium. OK, but what does that have to do with him being a homo?

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 11:48 pm

CJB a homosexual? That is ridiculous, Carolyn.

Do you know him? Why is it ridiculous, Jim? You obviously have no idea how many there are in this “movement.” Why is he such a vicious woman-hater? I have talked about his emails to me, and I almost posted some here tonight, but changed my mind. Maybe I should email them to you. What do you think?

Carolyn

March 11, 2014 at 11:59 pm

That wasn’t directed to you, Jim. It was to Dietlef @ 2014/03/11 at 9:47 pm

jimhardpeka

March 12, 2014 at 12:00 am

Carolyn. I don’t think that there are that many homos in the movement. I know that a lot of the folks at Counter-Currents are a little faggoty, but homosexuality is basically a genetic disorder that effects about one or two per cent of the population. Kinsey got it wrong when he said that homos made up ten per cent. Having said that, as long as a homo is not actually practicing buggery, I think that we should not exclude him from our ranks. Heterosexuality is good and normal. Homosexuality is not.

jimhardpeka

March 12, 2014 at 12:14 am

I will be glad to give you my email address, but I am not interested in getting personal emails from third parties, emails should be confidential in my opinion.

katana

March 12, 2014 at 12:29 am

Carolyn: March 11, 2014 at 4:41 pm

And don’t we deserve to laugh once in awhile? I have to say, it really feels good and I deserve it!
—————
Yes, and I did get a good laugh when you were onto Chairman Martin about his careless writing habits. There he was, getting a well deserved correction by a genuine “grammar Nazi”. Ha!

Carolyn

March 12, 2014 at 2:07 am

Jim, this type of emails do not deserve the privilege of confidentiality. But there is no point in talking to you any longer, since you just keep saying the same thing. You have your mind closed and you are basically saying “I don’t want to know.” Okay, fine. Be happy.

Carolyn

March 12, 2014 at 2:09 am

Haha, katana. I guess I am a “grammar Nazi.” I can’t deny it.

jimhardpeka

March 12, 2014 at 4:37 am

Carolyn, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on certain things. You are a very intelligent woman and I respect your views, even though I may not agree with you all the time. with the world teetering on the brink of a Third World War, surely there are more important questions to consider than who or who not in the Movement is straight or funny. Our Aryan Race is a Mighty Race. We have struggled and overcame obstacles in the past and shall again. Hail Victory Comrade Carolyn.

David

March 12, 2014 at 8:25 am

Carolyn,

Would you please dig up some “dirt@ on me too? I feel left out

David Baillie

Carolyn

March 12, 2014 at 9:46 am

You are left out, David. No one really cares about you; they left your ugly mug off the Board of Director’s page. But here’s some “dirt” for you from your best friend:
As for your advice on what is reality (per your second comment), I wouldn’t put any credence in it so I won’t be asking you to come on my program.

Carolyn

March 12, 2014 at 10:05 am

I got this email from someone named Frank. And btw, I have not gotten a single negative or crank email about my Rodney Martin programs. Frank writes:

Carolyn -

Hello. I really appreciate your shows about Martin. And I especially respect your courage and motivation to do them. I knew all along that you would get ‘push-back’ from your allies to stop, but I think you show a lot of character and courage to continue on. You are also very thorough and fair when you take on a subject like this.

As you pointed out, Martin is looking to have a bigger and bigger influence in ‘The Movement’, so that is why he needs to be exposed. So it is very legitimate what you are doing. I don’t care for the way he has slandered you, Tan and Hadding. It was all uncalled for. And the same goes for the terrible things Borsella has said to you.

Though he does say some good things, I don’t care for the way Martin talks about ‘plowing people into the ground’ and ‘long knives’.

judith

March 12, 2014 at 10:44 am

I have appreciated your exposure of Rodney Martin as a hypocrite and liar. His fake academic qualifications and fb page reveal the fantasy world he inhabits. I would have been ignorant of this important information had it not been for your diligent research. I hope he will be ostracised by the white movement and seen as yet another facet of the enemy within. Thank you, Carolyn.

Dietlef Busch

March 12, 2014 at 10:50 am

@ Carolyn regarding the “shift” of Cristogianni, did he? An excerpt out of his The Imperian Manifesto here The “Spiritual Race” Myth & the Importance of Materialism

Constantin von Hoffmeister hit the nail on the head in his short essay: “’Racial’ Bolshevism”

There are several inconsistencies in Ideus`(Cristogianni re-invented “2nd identity”) book, notably his position on capital punishment and the education of women. On page 147 of Imperian Manifesto he says that women should not be educated beyond High School level [....] He sees women as purely broodmares! [.....]

http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/

@ jimhardpeka, you either are very aware of all of the above (going by your “Chairman Mao” quote) or one of those “Die-Hards stand for nothing, fall for anything” types. Neither did I ask you take sides, BUT get a spine and back-bone and tell them to go to hell with their invalid gossip-mongering. And do not come back with a “but Carolyn said”, Carolyn (and numerous others) provide proof to question these people who demand money for their “services to be leaders of whatever”. It boils down in accepting the official holohoax story, pan-EurasianSSR’ism bolshevik style and Talmudic cabalism for the sheep drawn into this “Aryan race futurists” “theory”.

Our once homogeneous dreams of being racial families are turning into nightmares: 1) Destroy religion 2) Destroy the family unit 3) Destroy private property 4) Destroy the nation, with it their identity, their language, their heritage….. 5) Introduce any form of sexual depravity 6) Multiculturalism etcetera and so forth!

You seem to be fine with it, as long as there are willing “Aryans” to “blossom” (for the elites)…

Carolyn

March 12, 2014 at 7:30 pm

HERE is a very interesting article about a homosexual spy for the Anti-Defamation League back in the 1990′s. If you don’t know the story of Ray Bullock, you should.

In 1993, Roy Bullock, was exposed as an ADL agent. He was San Francisco art dealer who was fairly well-known in the homosexual community and whose specialty was the infiltration of patriotic, Arab-American, and other organizations on behalf of the League. Bullock was found to have in his possession illegally obtained and highly private and personal data on his targets — data which could only have been obtained from police and other confidential government files. These data were also discovered in the files of the ADL itself when police raided ADL headquarters in San Francisco and Los Angeles as a result of Bullock’s exposure.

From the Los Angeles Times, 13th April, 1993:

To the outside world, Roy Bullock was a small-time art dealer who operated from his house in the Castro District. In reality, he was an undercover spy who picked through garbage and amassed secret files for the Anti-Defamation League for nearly 40 years.

His code name at the prominent Jewish organization was Cal, and he was so successful at infiltrating political groups that he was once chosen to head an Arab-American delegation that visited Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) in her Washington, D.C. office.

For a time, ‘Cal’ tapped into the phone message system of White Aryan Resistance. … From police sources, he obtained privileged, personal information on at least 1,394 people. And he met surreptitiously with agents of the South African government to trade his knowledge for crisp, new $100 bills.

These are among the secrets that Bullock and David Gurvitz, a former Los Angeles-based [ADL] operative, divulged in extensive interviews with police and the FBI in a growing scandal over the nationwide intelligence network operated by the Anti-Defamation League….

Transcripts of the interviews — among nearly 700 pages of documents released by San Francisco prosecutors last week — offer new details of the private spy operation that authorities allege crossed the line into illegal territory.

At times, the intelligence activities took on a cloak-and-dagger air with laundered payments, shredded documents, hotel rendezvous with foreign agents and code names….

Rick

March 13, 2014 at 2:26 pm

Interesting article Carolyn. The homosexual community has chosen to align itself with the far left; obviously they are being used just like other minority groups in so called “coalition of the oppressed”. Recent brain studies have shown that homosexual males have brains similar to heterosexual females. Perhaps there is some type of evolutionary reason for this development; some women preferring men more like themselves. In other cases early childhood trauma or abuse may compromise an individuals ability to form bonds with the opposite sex. Whatever the origins of homosexuality it cannot be seen on par with the heterosexual union. The heterosexual union is the building block of our cause; this is one of the reasons why our enemies like dismantling it.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/17/science/sci-gaybrain17

William Finck

March 14, 2014 at 1:03 pm

jimhardpeka, you are the perfect example of why there are so many clowns calling themselves after one Nationalist or pro-White label or another, when in reality they only seek to deceive or subvert real pro-White Nationalists.

While we all have our warts and our pasts to deal with, and none of us are perfect because none of us are born with all of the right ideas, HOWEVER we have to be honest about how we got where we are in our current persuasion – unless we have an agenda.

Rodney Martin has not honestly explained his past, and he has not honestly explained why he is where he claims to be today. Rather, he has lied and attempted to cover his tracks.

Real leaders answer the hard questions forthrightly. And unless awakened Whites learn to police themsleves, they will never have real leaders.

We cannot simply embrace every clown who seems to be playing our song.

David

March 15, 2014 at 8:03 am

Actually Carolyn, I have no desire to be on your show, I wanted you to come on mine. In fact, I had hoped to have you as a semi-regular panelist on the new panel show, 90@9, I am developing for your impeccable Revisionist work. It is really sad that you have gone down this road, and even sadder that Bill Finck, who I have considered my CI pastor, has aligned with you. You are not growing anything, let alone a movement. You are grinding your gears and asking for handouts near as I can see.

As for my ugly mug, I am not an egotistical person, but I do realize that you are so brimming with bile that you can’t help but be perpetually obnoxious. Don’t think that your Dago remark and others about Whites not sharing conmon blood went unnoticed either, despite Bill adding his name to this thread. It is some strange $$$$ alliance you have going on.

ANAANN is growing by leaps and bounds. It is the foremost White Advocacy network because we have standards and are a legitimate organization looking to bring our people to racial and political awareness. You and this cabal seem to prefer spinning your wheels and spraying a lot of mud and asking for help.

Rottweiller Jones (UK)

March 15, 2014 at 10:09 am

I notice the logic here;

If Rodney Responds to something you say that impilies guilt, if Chris Borsella fails to respond then he is guilty of the caherge you level a him too. I used to listen to your programme and I don’t frankly give a toss what your former relationship with the ANN is bit you have alienated many listeners with this nonsense.

The American Nationalist Network is putting out excellent shows, this week they interviewed Sanders Pierce again, Rod has been organising demos in solidarity with the Crimean people and on the road visiting and networking. The network is expanding and developing new shows all the time but you just sat behind a microphone for the second week in a row and spent the entire airtime running this nework down.

Get a grip of yourself, I suggest you listen to some of your broadcasts with an empirical and self-critical mind and take a second look at how you have chosen to use your network and it’s potential.

David

March 15, 2014 at 7:00 pm

Carolyn,

Are you an agent, an idiot or a junky?

Carolyn

March 15, 2014 at 7:57 pm

Alright folks, at Paul Hickman’s suggestion, I have restored the comments from “Clowns.Inc” that I had “trashed” as not being worth reading. They precede this message. Some people will not approve though, because they are sick of it all ( I sympathize).

David Baillie wrote: “Instead of shooting your mouth off conjecturing a bunch of horse shit, why don’t you invite me on and we can have a chit chat about reality?”

After which he wrote the comment dated March 15, 2014 at 8:03 am in which he contradicted himself.

Carolyn

March 15, 2014 at 8:15 pm

David Baillie can’t make up his mind, and that’s the truth. He’s been telling me I’m mean and hateful for 2 years now, but still he keeps writing to me. I used to tell him flat out, “You are SO boring!” and he would answer me back in a reasonable way … as if I didn’t really mean it. As long as he gets any kind of reply, he continues the emailing. He’s a conversation junkie, I guess. David is made to take abuse. I’m sorry about that because he’s a good person, much better than the company he’s hanging out with now.

He mentions Bill Finck — Bill can’t understand how David has gone so far off course.

“ANAANN is growing by leaps and bounds.” This is what Rodney is telling them and is a pure lie. It is not possible. “Foremost White Advocacy network.” What does that even mean?? Nothing. But David feels he’s finally found a real home.

Carolyn

March 15, 2014 at 8:31 pm

To Rottweiller (the dog) –
1. Rodney doesn’t respond to anything I say — not honestly. He just attacks with a partial fact that he’s built a made-up story around.
2. I do not care whether you listen to my programmes or not. Why would I?
3. Sanders Pierce. Oh wow. He actually has nothing to do with the National Alliance and never did.
4. Network expanding – the more shows ANN gets, the lower the quality. TWN is not interested in growing; we’re only interested in high quality. So grow and expand all you want. Every show I listen to at ANN is excruciatingly boring to me. Will yours be any better? I saw you said Borsella would be your “co-anchor”, which means it WILL be excruciatingly boring, for sure.
4. You can save your silly advice for someone else. You are just a kid to me, Dave, just a kid. And not an interesting one. But you are kind of humorous.

Carolyn

March 15, 2014 at 8:34 pm

To David again – Don’t you ever give up? The more you comment here, David, the worse you look. But I have a heart and I feel for you, though I also think you are hopeless and beyond help.

Carolyn

March 15, 2014 at 9:48 pm

I should also reply to David’s reference to Bill Finck as writing a comment here because of $$$$$. If I am such an impoverished person living in a broken-down trailer, where would the money come from? Think David, think … before you open your mouth.

Richard

March 15, 2014 at 11:16 pm

David, your effeminate voice is annoying. Carolyn, Rodney’s site was 8 million on Alexa, now it’s below 2 million; you’re giving these clowns traffic by discussing them.

Dietlef Busch

March 15, 2014 at 11:25 pm

@ David Rottweiler (or is it rather Yorkshire Terrier), YOU cannot blame Carolyn for your OWN ineptness posing in photos with a chink called Claire Squaw and that using a flag which my forebear fought for and therefore has NOTHING to do with you or her (and which inherently never belonged to you or her in the first place). That flag is drenched in the blood of MILLIONS of German and European lives, sacred in our hearts in honour of their sacrifice and NOT for you to make some “political statement” in such a disrespectful manner! That slit-eyes’ forebear were mostly responsible for the rape of million of German children and women!

Face it “mate”, you yourself ALONE are to be blamed, as well as your “Atlantic Axis” idiots, especially fat Rod with his “Russian flag”, what a joke you all are! What is next, an “Atlantic Russian Axis”, better known as the old communist ALL-LIES.

Carolyn

March 16, 2014 at 12:16 am

Richard, when you’re in those kind of numbers, I don’t think it’s very accurate. He may have “registered” to improve his standing. But people would be going there to check it out because of the publicity, but it doesn’t mean they will continue to go there. If 100 people go there in a short time, it could go from 8 mil to 3 mil, I suppose. In any case, I’m tired of it and don’t plan to talk about them anymore unless something really big happens.

Michael

March 16, 2014 at 9:18 am

Hi Carolyn,

I believe I used listened to your program and found out about this website a year ago. I kind of took a brake from White nationalist radio programs for a few months but recently I started listening to a few programs again like David Duke, Stormfront, Political Cesspool, etc. I downloaded and listened to this latest Heretics Hour on Friday and found it very interesting to say the least. I’ve thought about it for awhile and have come to a few conclusions.

First off, I think I had only heard of Rod Martin once or twice before when he was a guest on some pro-white program (I can’t remember the name). My first impressions were that he seemed knowledgeable enough and was talking about the Jewish issue quite accurately. However I had no knowledge of the man himself before listening to your show. Now that I have I must applaud you for giving your blunt analysis of the guy and his inconsistencies. I think there are many people in this movement who declare themselves “White Nationalists” or “Pro-White Leaders” who want to endear the public to their organizations or group but they themselves are not forthcoming of their past. Not only that, they all seem to have this quirk of embellishing their history or exaggerating the few accomplishments they have done. It takes courage for someone like yourself to point out his inadequacies as hard as it may be, but it must be done. More of our people should do their research before they even consider joining an organization, and if they find flaws within the leadership, they should not only disregard their consideration for that group, but they should also speak out about it and let others know so they don’t fall into the same trap.

At first I kind of had the same feeling as the caller and comments Jim had made such as to put aside any flaws and work together regardless. However I thought about it more and more and I believe their is a limit to how many flaws or how serious one flaw is to just put it aside and work together with that person. I think everyone has things they are not proud of in their past which is normal, and the majority of us could easily look it over and continue working with them. However if someone does not learn from his or her mistakes and continues to partake in such activities, it certainly isn’t healthy for us to continue working with that individual. Eventually they will unravel and you will find yourself in a place that is worst off from where you started. I say that not as a Carolyn Yeager fan or a Rodney Martin hater, but for someone who has looked at everything objectively.

The only criticism i would have with your recent show is when you made the comment about Tom Sunic possibly being a homosexual. You said something to the effect of “he had many guests who were gay, and that makes you wonder about him.” Now, I can recount many times people have used similar tactics when speaking, mostly Jews ironically, which makes me wonder if that is a trait among them when they attack a certain individual. Anyway, I disagree strongly about making statements like that without any conclusive evidence or proof on the matter. On that note what makes you say Borcella is gay? I’ve never heard of him before your program and it could very well be. But do you have any evidence of that? If so please feel free to let me know. If you like you may e-mail me if you don’t feel comfortable presenting it in a comment. Thanks!

Other than that, I enjoyed your show. I will continue to listen every week. Keep up the good work!

-Michael

Carolyn

March 16, 2014 at 3:29 pm

Hi Michael,

You certainly make your criticism easy to take by preceding it with so much positive commenting. I think that what you say about Sunic and Borsella being gay or not is perfectly justified. Especially for Sunic. I suppose I should regret letting my private thoughts slip through like that, but I’ve had them for a long time and kept quiet. What thoughts are there want to come out — that sort of thing. But I agree I was wrong to and maybe I should apologize to Tom Sunic for all the mean things I’ve said about him. I do not think highly of him because of his anti-nationalist stance and push for “Europeanism,” (which is explained in my mind by the fact he is Croatian and wishes to be German so if everyone is European, that solves the problem too); an affinity for the Imperium idea; his tolerance of jews and homosexuals among us; and his wishy-washy style. BUT, upon thinking about it now, I cannot point out any sign of homosexual behavior in him. So I was in the wrong to say that.

Borcella is another story. He looks gay, lives like a gay, sounds gay, is impulsively nasty like a gay. He has a problem with women, no question about it, which is more typical with homosexuals than with straight men who are just misogynists. He doesn’t explain any of this either; he is unable to talk about it. I should publish the emails he sent to me a month or two ago, in a queer rage, calling me a “barren,” therefore worthless woman who “probably couldn’t even cook.” In another one, he wrote I should “get in the kitchen, grandma, and make me a sandwich.” And of course he kept calling me a jew. What kind of a man would write to a woman in that way? A psychopath or a queer, in my experience. While it is not hard evidence, it is enough for me. If he is straight, where is the evidence of a single relationship with a female? There is no trace of any.

Michael

March 16, 2014 at 6:35 pm

Hi Carolyn,

Thanks for the reply. Well I certainly understand your feelings and opinion on Borcella after those nasty exchanges. Those remarks are rude, demeaning, and unbecoming of a White Man, especially one who claims to be “proud of his race.” The guy seems to be inexperienced with how to talk to women in general, and especially a proud White Woman as yourself at that . I’ve never heard him speak so I’ll have to listen to a program of his unfortunately, but if he sounds anything like Kevin Strom I’m totally with you, lol.

Regarding Sunic, yeah I thought that was a little overboard on your part but the rest of his ideas regarding nationalism do not sit well with me either. I myself am of Croation/Serbian ancestry and the one thing i do know definitely is that after we have solved and exiled the Jewish element from our midst as a race, we must have ethnic/nationalist boundaries that are separate from each other. The idea of a pan-European imperium with no boundaries of ethnic states is absurd. I always say to others we can fight amongst ourselves if we really need to AFTER we get rid of the Jewish influence, which i find unnecessary myself as long as we coexist separately you know? But nonetheless for those of us who just like to fight or squabble with one another, at least then it will be all in the family, no pun intended.

Regarding Hitler’s Germany, I understand he had a strong dis-like for Slavs in general, as he wrote about it in his auto-biography. However i do not blame him for that (which many have chastised me for saying that) because he had described growing up in an Austria that was multi-culturalized with Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, etc. But regardless of how he felt about it, I saw the actions of his government speak wider volumes on what kind of leader he really was. What i am referring to of course are the many Waffen-SS divisions which consisted of many eastern European nations fighting against the communists. They were not forced but willingly joined which the Germans gladly accepted. When i had learned about that I had a different view of Hitler altogether from then on, and i had grown to admire that about him. On a side note, My grandfather on my mother’s side had fought for Hitler and the SS in the Croatian division. She would relay to me stories when i asked about it early on in my life of how he would refer to Hitler as “Uncle Hitler” haha, figuratively speaking of course. Back then i couldn’t understand why, but as i learned the real truth I had totally understood. Anyway i’m starting to digress, I apologize about that.

To wrap my comment up, I wouldn’t bother on Martin or Borcella any longer as i think you had covered everything. I believe you said this earlier i think. They can say all the good rhetoric they want about Race and Jews, but they are not brothers of mine, especially Borcella (He does look kind of creepy in that photo now that i think about it). Also I wouldn’t worry about the ANA, I don’t think they have even 10 members between them.. i’m speculating of course but it stands to reason since I’ve never came across that group before. I will also let others know on stormfront and elsewhere to steer clear of that dysfunctional group.

-Michael

Carolyn

March 16, 2014 at 7:02 pm

Well, I like the Croats, Michael, and I’m not just saying that. They’re tough, and they hung in with the Reich right up to the end — paid a heavy price too. The only allies left at the end, I think. The Serbs are tough too. It’s just that Tom Sunic would rather be a European, he’s made that clear.

I really want to leave the ANA-ANN alone, but I think I might soon be attacked in a bad way. But if not, I agree I’ve said enough. If people are not convinced now, they won’t be. BTW, Borsella doesn’t sound like Kevin Strom (who actually has 3 beautiful children who live with him and is not homosexual), but more like a glib-tongued performer who loves hearing his own smooth voice.

William Finck

March 17, 2014 at 9:19 am

David, your assessment of my post here and the reasons for making it are entirely wrong.

While I appreciate a lot of Carolyn’s work, and disagree with some of it because my perspectives on certain things are quite different, yet I consider her a friend, and never beat her over the head where we have certain disagreements. Neither does she ever try to persuade me in like manner.

Yet I have not listened to a single one of her programs on this matter, because I simply do not have the time. Rather, I only read some of her summaries and went and read the original materials she has located and assessed them for myself.

Therefore I have been totally objective in assessing everything which she has presented on this issue, and I am not biased. If Carolyn were wrong in what I have seen of her summaries of this information, I would gladly tell her, again as a friend. Nobody sways me with either friendship or money, but only with evidence sufficient to establish a proof, or at least beckon a reasonably evidenced refutation.

That is what is most lacking in White Nationalist circles: objectivity. Most of them are no different that the damned Democrats or Republicans, or even the Jews, who all make their decisions based on whether or not someone is on their side or their team.

David, I believe that your defenses of Rodney Martin are biased and short-sighted. I am disappointed that you have taken to attacking the messenger rather than addressing the issues.

If you can address the issues objectively and somehow prove that Carolyn is wrong in the evaluation of what she has found, good! If you cannot, then you should admit that Carolyn is right, and take appropriate action by asking Martin to account honestly for the discrepancies.

It does not matter, David, what you think of Carolyn. Rather, what matters is how Rodney Martin claims to have been a WN advocate for so many years, while in reality he was trying to build a political career by spouting multi-cult drivel and working for the benefit of injuns. And he was doing those things as recently as what, 6 years ago? If Martin ever got elected to office, would any of us have heard of him?

Now any White man can have a change of heart and turn from the error of his ways. But if one wants to be accepted as a leader, one must be honest and talk openly about one’s past, and adequately explain one’s change of heart. Rather than doing that, Martin has simply invented lies and has attempted to smear those who would call him on them.

For my part, I suspected that Martin was not true to the cause when he embraced a certain CI poser and fraud who I believe is actually a liar and a crypto-jew. But that is only my opinion.

Martin is trying to build a name for himself by aggrandizing himself, and by embracing every tired old WN stalwart who never got anywhere because they are all misfits or compromisers.

Any honest man who reads Martin’s description of himself on the ANN website would realize immediately that the guy is a huckster. Truly great men do not brag about themselves. Consider Hitler and his war record as an example. And Martin’s bragging, when examined, is all vain and empty arrogance: there are no real accomplishments there at all.

David, you are riding the wrong horse, and in the wrong corral. Get out of the circus and find the rodeo before its too late.